Jennifer Matthias, a 6th grade school teacher at A.H. Bush Elementary School in Idaho Falls was married to Keith Matthias, at least she was until he died Friday evening.
Keith was a math teacher at Idaho Falls High School. According to reports, Jennifer had been having an affair with another man named Jack Purcell. Purcell has been convicted in the past of grand theft and domestic violence where he was sentenced to 18 months in prison. The affair appeared to have been going on for some time, and it looks like Jennifer dropped the bomb on Keith Matthias while they were having dinner on Friday evening. One can only imagine the pain and confusion of such a revelation. And based on what follows, it appears that Jennifer was not planning on making amends with her marriage.
Details are sketchy as to what happened next, but according to reports, Keith and Jennifer left in separate vehicles, and they both ended up a short time later in the Wal-Mart parking lot on the west side of town. At some point, Jennifer made the mistake of calling the man she was having an affair with who arrived at Wal-mart as well.
According to reports, there was a heated argument between the two men, and at some point Keith Matthias lost it, got out of his car, and shot the man having an affair with his wife in the head multiple times. Later that night, Keith ended his own life by shooting himself in the head.
It will probably never be resolved as to the level of guilt of Keith Matthias, but in a situation such as this, it is possible that temporary insanity could be the outcome. One can only imagine the amount of hurt, pain, and conflict he endured when he found out about the affair, and then the confusion and anger with the ensuing confrontation in WalMart’s parking lot. But it appears certain that Keith Matthias killed that man.
So who is to blame for this mishap? Keith for the shooting? Jennifer for the affair and how she handled the situation? The man convicted of grand theft for his role in the ordeal?
For me, the only thing certain is two men are dead, and a woman who was married to one and having an affair with another in the middle.
If anyone knows the parties involved, or had information on what happened prior to or during that tragic night, please let us know.
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What a lot of discussion I’ve already heard about this – thanks for posting an article. What my friends and family have talked about is not gossip, more like curiousity – like what will the school district do with her job, would you have told your husband about the affair or gotten the divorce first? My hubby, true to form, said he should have shot her and taken the boyfriend out for a beer. (no disrespect intended)
You know, I’ve read some scorn on the news sites accusing Matthias of being a gun toting nut. Perhaps he held a CWP and legally carried one, or did he go home and get it? How could he have time if he followed his wife from the restaurant? If she knew he carried for safety (or whatever), why tell him such heartbreaking news right before Christmas knowing he had a gun nearby?
Half the people in my family, including myself, have a CWP and carry in all of our vehicles. So I don’t think branding him a nut unless you knew him personally is right. Either way, this is a sad story no matter how you look at it, especially for the kids and loved ones involved.
Like I posted in another thread, I wonder if the same people here will scorn the Matthias woman like the woman in the Blake Hall case, or pity her. Lots of strong emotions for sure.
I don’t know much about the situation, but on: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?v=info&id=1625028988:
Jennifer Matthias wrote:
It looks like things arent so simple any more.
Too bad she couldn’t have used her “gift of healing” and magical fingertips to heal her marriage. What a weird post as a way to describe yourself. Doesn’t sound like a lot of “positive energy” was flowing into the relationship at home either. Sad.
I think people need to stop blaming her for what happened. Many people, myself included, have had a spouse cheat on us and its always a bombshell when it drops but most of us don’t snap and kill someone over it.
What she did is bad but it didn’t cause what happened. The only cause of this is the guy who did the killing.
I’d have to agree with Anonymous.
Focusing on her mistakes might be an initial emotional temptation but to do that is to ignore the 800 pound gorilla in the room: he is the murderer here. Her actions were a contributing correlation to what happened but she did not CAUSE what happened.
Similarly, most people who get fired from a job or don’t get a promotion (whether unjustified or not) don’t go on a shooting rampage. To say doing such a thing is “selfish” is an understatement.
Obviously, all three involved made mistakes here and did wrong. Keith obviously made the biggest mistake by far, and after the insanity wore off I’m sure Keith realized he made the biggest mistake more than anyone else – not long before he shot himself.
It’s quite possible you could get cheated on in life. It’s very possible your heart will be broken. People will betray you. It’s very possible you’ll be unjustly fired from a job. If you’re someone who can’t handle such tests quite as well as the average person without flipping out with rage, then take your meds and/or don’t have a gun within arm’s length.
Mr Matthias was one of the greatest teachers ive ever known. He changed the way i thought of math. I stressed over it so much but he made a way to make it not so stressful and its just another part of life. He was a respectful man, teacher, friend, and father. The coments people are putting saying he’s crazy is not true! We all do stupid things at wrong times in the wrong situations. He knew he couldn’t live knowing the girl he loved was loving another. I want the world to know that i respect him and he is a great man! He had a reason to be upset. Everyone has times where they wish they had a gun to kill someone or themselves. Unfortunately he kept it handy in his car. We can all say “oh what if..” but what’s past is past and all we need is to remember the kind, honest, and true man he was. I won’t forget you Mr. Matthias. Be true on the other side.
Well one thing is for certain…Purcell won’t be having affairs with married women anymore. I wonder if Jennifer Matthias knew Purcell’s record?.
the walmart now has a vigil for mr purcell saying he was the real victim. The big mistake was calling the violent adulterous boyfriend to rescue her from her hurt husband who was so far only following her. Im sure he came racing over hot blooded to defend his adulterous lover. I can imagine the words that were exchanged or threats that were made that pushed an already wounded man over the edge. I pitty Mr. Matthias only.
What we don’t know is how much Purcell provoked Keith Matthias before he took action. you can immagine the types of demeaning taunts and put downs a guy like Purcell could have thrown in a situation like that.
Did Purcell work at Walmart stocking shelves?.
Why do you ask? Did you hear something that he worked there? Maybe that’s why she drove to WalMart?
Maybe this will teach people to NOT have affairs. This woman did not pull the trigger, but none of this would have happened without her involvement. What are the chances she’ll be prosecuted for something here? Even though she didn’t pull the trigger, she created this.
She did NOT create this. Clearly she was not happy and was more than happy to voice the affair. No one knows how long it was going on anyway….perhaps it just started, maybe it was going on for a long time. Spectators are just that….SPECTATORS. No one really knows what was going on in the situation and most of us never will. It’s none of our business who she was sleeping with. She was up front and came clean.
I myself have been destroyed and been left numb from a person cheating on me. HOWEVER, I did not go kill someone and I did not want to kill anyone over the hurt.
Quit being so closed minded Rose.
Why do we all have to be so judgmental? Everyone makes mistakes in life. We all don’t know what was going on behind closed doors at the Matthias house. The one who spent time in prison for violence obviously wasn’t the one who showed it that night, he didn’t even get out of his vehicle. We as people need to stop judging and pray for all those involved. She may have been wrong for having an affair, but you are all just as wrong for pointing fingers. You only have heard what has been reported, when you know the facts than you all can make your nasty comments. As for right now, there are family and friends who cared and loved all who was involved. I don’t know any of the people involved in this tragedy, but I don’t think because I am a part of the public that gives me a right to blame and point fingers or be judgmental. Quit throwing stones at glass houses.
There is a new article in the Post Register entitled “Two Men, Two Paths”, largely based on comments Jennifer Matthias made to the paper. After reading it, it seems as if she tried to paint her husband in a negative light, and her boyfriend Purcell was portrayed as basically a great guy who made a few mistakes. Never mind all the charges and prison time.
OK, so they were facing huge financial problems. Well, I know very few people on teacher’s salaries driving Hummers. She also stated the affair only started two weeks ago. The only person who can verify it is dead.
I cannot believe the woman at the center of this mess spoke so freely to the paper about her bad marriage, her husband’s personal issues and her affair. For god’s sake, is either man even buried yet? What a thing for her own kids to read about, not to mention her former students. Before this I withheld judgement, but the PR interview sure tells me a lot. I’d be mortified if I was her kids and mom said all of this about dad to the world. I don’t think she needs to be back in a classroom. This went beyond bad taste.
Forgot to post this, I’d never heard of this website until now. It comes up with a simple search of the names involved. They, whoever run it, are discussing this case about halfway down and pulling local comments from our news and dissecting them. Warning, there is some potentially offensive nudity but keep scrolling.
The first dated article is entitled “BREAD & CIRCUSES; THE NEXT LOVER JENNIFER MATTHIAS TAKES HAS LESS TO FEAR THAN THE FIRST”
and the next is: “VOX POPULI; THE JENNIFER MATTHIAS CASE”
It’s a ….. “unique” site for lack of a better word.
[Moderator note: Reader, I apologize, but I'm removing this link because it contains more than nudity, it includes outright pornography. I don't want to restrict access for those who want to find this information, but due to the graphic content on that site, I'm going to ask that they take the extra step and search for it in google.]
You sound a lot like my mom, reader.
I still say that holy finger healing teacher lady deserves a chance (even though she is a tramp).
Who is to blame? Does it matter, two people are dead. I do say to Jennifer “shame on you” if you want to sleep around get a divorce and have at it. When a person is married he or she should have a little compassion for the spouse even if the spouse isn’t wonderful. A person having an affair provides lasting damage to the spouse and children. Keep your pants on until the divorce is final.
It looks like that other site ripped the photo of Jennifer Matthias from here. This site is gets around!
Moderator, that’s cool – I was just so surprised about the lengthy discussion about what happened here on a site like that – it’s easy enough to find if you want to.
The other site could have ripped the photo from ifz, but it was taken from her facebook page so I guess it’s public access for anyone.
I am fully amazed at how many people here that are close to this story feel that if Jennifer Matthias bears no responsibility in the actions of her husband. I feel if she had not had the affair Jack purcell and her husband would likely be alive right now barring accidents or the unforseen. They definitely would not have been the vicitms of murder suicide had not Jennifer Matthias decided her own emotional and sexual needs were more important than her marriage and children.
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Cheating on a spouse is the most disrespectful act one can commit. She effectively rubbed his face in it by revealing it and calling her lover to Wal Mart. Her children may never forgive her for the insult to their father that apparently hurt him so deeply he snapped, and they all lost him.
By the way, adultery is still a felony in Idaho – is she still fit as an unconvicted but admitted felon to remain in the classroom?
I cannot believe all of the judgmental people on here. If the woman was unhappy in her marriage I doubt she hid the fact from her husband. It takes two to tango baby, and Keith is NOT without fault before it all went bad. Was she right to have an affair? Absolutely not. But SHE IS NOT AT FAULT for some IDIOT pulling a gun and murdering another human being. PERIOD! He is a grown man and made a choice to take another mans life. I would like someone to explain to me how the fact that her “lover” did prison time makes it OK to be killed? Because I know quite a few people who made mistakes in their life, paid for them, and have gone on to be productive wonderful citizens. I guess not a one of you have made a mistake – or had family members who made mistakes? How can you justify the actions of a murderer??? I was married to a violent man who put a gun to my head and threatened to “blow my brains out” and I can tell you I sympathize totally with Jennifer. Although I never had an affair I applaud her for wanting to leave him. I can almost bet it wasn’t the first time Keith was violent or made her think he would kill her. Stop judging Jennifer until you know the FACTS and what she had to live with.
You know, the new poll questions got me thinking – does either man’s family, especially Purcell’s, have any grounds for a civil claim against Matthias? Would like to hear from some lawyerly types about this. It’s not so crazy if you think what else makes it into the courtroom.
Saw in today’s PR both men are at the same funeral home. What a sad irony.
Jennifer recently said, “Jack saved my life.” Well, if she had called the police instead of her loser boyfriend, she could have saved HIS life. And her husband’s. Not that she cares, though. Like another poster said, she’s badmouthing Keith before his body has even been buried. I think she’s just basking in the attention. Some women like to have men fighting over them.
If I were her, I’d change my name and leave the country. Most of the community despises her, after all. I don’t care if Keith had anger management issues–that doesn’t justify her affair.
Same funeral home? Boy, someone just wasn’t thinking there…
If Purcell had any minor children, they may have a claim against Matthias’ estate for wrongful death.
Matthias would have had a claim against Purcell for alienation of affection.
I had some thoughts about the article the Post Register ran yesterday. The article reads in part like this
The family was facing mounting debt, with no way to pay bills. On her Facebook page and in the PR article, Jennifer notes that she drives a Hummer. Financial debt can be one of the largest contributing factors to the distruction of a marriage. And vanity is a major contributing factor to overspending. Why is she driving a hummer if they’re strapped financially?!
She claims to have only been seeing another man romantically for 2 months before the affair, but again, on her facebook wall, there is basically two main people communicating with her – and they are both men… It’s unfair to suggest she’s had a romantic interest with either of them, but it’s a curious fact none the less.
Jennifer goes on in the Post Register report by apparently attempting to smear her husband, accusing him of being unhappy, depressed, and angry. And brings up that he was accused of sexually harassment of a student, an accusation that was dropped. In district 91’s research they found no such accusation.
The Post Register article then goes into Purcell’s past.
Hu? Everybody knew the story as of when? Oh, after she kept the affair a secret for weeks (or longer)
Sure, that’s a “convenient thing to say”, given the circumstances.
Here is more of “her version “ of what happened as reported by the Post Register
Now that’s an interesting thing to say. Wouldn’t something of shock like, “What have you done?!” be more natural?
Sounds almost like she didn’t like the guy to start with. Does anyone know what this encounter was about? Was one of his children inside her home? Did she have something he owned and wouldn’t return? More info is needed to judge one way or another.
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This is only part of the article. Some chopping involved, so I’m sorry if it’s not posted here perfectly.
I think it’s good to remember this is her story. It’s unfortunate that Keith doesn’t have a chance to share his side of the story, but in my opinion that is his fault and he gave up the opportunity to clear his name when he took his life. Still, she doesn’t seem very sorry for anything she’s done. This lady has ruined several peoples lives.
ANON..are you kidding me w/ your posts? “Cheating is the most disrespectful act one can commit” ????? Oh you’re right because MURDER isn’t. How stupid to believe that the person who PULLED THE TRIGGER would be the one at fault.
I can not believe the closed minded, judgemental people on here. WOW!! Did she make a big mistake? yes, but it sounds like she was trying to right it. Have you ever lied Anon? Have you ever made a mistake? Probably. Do you want me to rake you through the coals because of your past???
A man took a gun and SHOT another 4 times!!! HE IS DEAD! Does that not matter to anyone? But you all sit here and put that aside b/c a woman cheated.
I am disappointed in the Idaho Falls Community for your lack of respect and how quickly you judge. WOW.
Anon, why don’t you tell us of mistakes that you’ve made so you can be judged by your own standards.
HaveAHeart,
Do you think this murder/suicide would have happened if she hadn’t cheated on her husband and had an affair?
Her kids are going to know that their dad is dead because of what she did.
Does Anyone know whether Keith had a life insurance policy?
Just seems like she set them both up. And if Adultery is a crime in Idaho – why isn’t she being charged.
What an odd thing to say to her husband after he shoots her lover? If she knew her husband was suicidal or he was in the past – she had to have known what this would do to him – especially around the Christmas season. Also why would she be with this Purcell – who was convicted of Domestic Battery w/ traumatic injury – when she says she was scared of her own husband.
Just being Curious!
Hell will freeze over before she ever teaches my kids! Congratulations jennifer, you get full custody of the kids and your husband’s life insurance benefit! Do you care that you broke up your family?
The district i’m sure provides a group life policy to their teachers. she will get that. most individual life policies will pay for suicide after 2 years in force. some will pay prior to 2 years. shell get that also. the kids need to be 100% beneficiaries of both those policies. I thought adultery was illegal in the state. The Idaho Falls police need to arrest that b…. for that!
There needs to be a candlelight vigil at Walmart for Keith and the Kids and not for Purcell and Jennifer’s ended romance!
I grew up in a violent home with a father that held a cwp. It took years of counseling and thousands of dollars to learn one complete truth. The person that commits the act is 100% responsible, no ifs ands or buts, no exceptions. We are all in control of how we react to situations. Everyone makes mistakes that we have to live with and Jennifers will be hard to live with but she is NOT to blame for her husbands decision.
Keith was my daughters math teacher and he was wonderful, he made her excel at math when she has always struggled with it, so I am not judging him as a person, just his decision. Anyone can snap at any time, it all comes down to self control, and he doesnt sound loke he had much.
Guest (post #10), I don’t think he worked at Wal-mart. Local news 8 said he worked for Johnson Brothers: http://www.jbros.com
Jennifer Matthias’ story sure doesn’t add up. Sounds like CYA time for her. And for the neightbor chiming in. The media interviews 5 people who supposedly see the same incident, 90% of the time you get 5 different versions of the incident. The Neighbor called the police on Keith Matthias? I would think IFPD would have a record of that?.
Jennifer knew her husband was depressed and on meds for depression yet when she got scared she call the boyfriend and not the cops?. Purcell shows up to “Protect” his woman and parks rigfht next to Keith Matthias?. Purcell being a convicted fellon. the chances of him having a firearm was unlikely. Did Purcell push Keith Matthias over the edge? possibly with some “Billy-BadAss” trash talk?.
In the end Purcell parking next to Keith Matthias wasn’t probably the smartest thing to do with the given situation. Jennifer’s decision to call Purcell rather the police was pretty stupid. Purcell won’t get involved with married women anymore and hopefull Jennifer with use common sense next time.
Jennifer sounds like the classic sociopath.
1.She is cheating (sexual promiscuity, a sociopathic trait)
2. She slanders her husband (known as the “devalue and discard” after a sociopath is done using someone)
3. She is an obvious liar ( yeah, right… Her husband was fine with her and the ex-con sleeping together, sociopaths are pathological liars)
4. She feels no responsibility for her part in this tragedy other than she should have maybe called the police instead of her Ex-Con lover! (Sociopaths feel no remorse or accountability)
5) She asks her Ex-Con lover if he would still want to have sex with hernow that she will be “a single mother of 3″ ( known as the “pity ploy” sociopaths often use to manipulate and or drum up sympathy )
Sociopaths are unable to feel love,guilt or empathy. They are indifferent to the destruction they cause to others. They are pathologically narcissistic and can justify anything they do. I only wish Jennifer’s husband had been able to see through her shallow and materialistic exterior and recognize her for the empty, pathetic excuse for a human that she is….
You would think if she was scared of her husband and just watched her husband kill her lover – she would have got the he## out of there – not turn around to him and say – Your going to jail for that – Well DUH! I do think the police need to check into it a little more. I got the impression from her interview in the paper – that she was making him to be at total fault and the bad guy – when it was she that started the ball rolling with – first having an affair and then telling her husband all about it – knowing full well his mental state. Pretty suspicious to me.
Keith is obviously the one responsible for the tragic way this turned out. He pulled the trigger for something that people all around the world deal with without losing control as he did.
Keith realized he made the biggest mistake. If he felt like he did the right thing he wouldn’t have killed himself.
“There was one brief moment in time that I remembered that Keith had a lot of guns,” Jennifer Matthias said. “And then he opened fire on (Purcell).”
How convenient to suddenly remember all those guns in your house. It’s so easy to forget there are lots of guns in a house you share with 3 kids. Wives are always forgetting about those guns aren’t they?
Liar. There will be extreme backlash if District 91 let’s her continue teaching after the holiday break.
How long were they married?
When are the funerals scheduled?
I really don’t understand some of you. Jennifer sounds like she’s a bit loony and she certainly screwed up by having an affair. But Keith pulled the trigger and Keith is the one who murdered someone. Keith then was a coward who killed himself rather than face the consequences. Keith is the one who abandoned his children and forced them into a life where they will grow up knowing their father was a psychotic murdered. Keith is scum.
I was cheated on by my spouse. I didn’t go kill the guy sleeping with my wife. I merely got divorced and got custody of my kids. And I got my revenge by becoming happier afterwards and moving on to a better relationship while my ex’s flamed out and now she suffers with a lot of regret. Keith could have chosen this route but instead he decided to become a psychotic scumbag murderer.
Hey Guest,
regarding your comment above, you forget to mention that the children will also know their mom was a cheating slut. And they may not want anything to do with her now or in the future if they have any say about it….
It’s true that their dad made a very bad choice in a moment of extreme emotional pain but their mom chose to be a cheat and then come out and slander their dad in a and accept no responsibility in the manner typical of a sociopath.
Now [moderated] cheyerra, where did you get your training to diagnose such a complicated condition from just a few news articles? Maybe that’s why your CNA license was revoked.
[moderated] Anoyomous, anyone with a computer can look up the symptoms of sociopathy…… and anyone reading Jennifer’s comments and her blatant lack of remorse and how she is justifying her own sleazy actions can make their own call…Maybe you need to not depend so much on credentials and learn to research and think for yourself…
What Jennifer didn’t realize when she came up with the scheme to have her husband kill himself is that the insurance company will do EVERYTHING in their POWER not to have to pay that claim so the money she is already planning to use to buy a bigger house or vacation will be paid eventually after she has battled them in court for several years and then paid an attorney 50% or more.
Jennifer if you are reading this page I hope you remember one great saying – What goes around comes around.
I get a kick out of the people ranting about people being judgemental and then…judging them. Get used to it, its the way the human mind works. it gathers information and forms opinions based on what it observes.
I observe the perfect storm here.
1. marital strain and stress.
2. Christmas and new year season.
3. Adultry ( only fools try and justify it)
4. A lifelong criminal scum bag. (if he turned his life around then whats he doing sleeping with a wife and mother?)
5. A selfish immoral woman
6. A gun
she pulled the pin tossed the grenade and watched it go boom
her sins were longlived and intentional.
His was a split second trigger pull he cant take back.
His remorse was evident in the taking of his life.
Hers doesnt exist.
5. a heartless
WHY ARE YOU GUYS BLAMING JENNIFER. SO WHAT IF SHE FELL IN LOVE WITH SOME ONE ELSE AND THEN TRIED TO LEAVE HER HUSBAND. DONT TELL ME THAT EVERYONE IN IDAHO FALLS IDAHO ARE FAITHFUL TO THERE HUSBANDS. JENNIFER DID NOT KNOW IT WAS GOING TO GO DOWN THE WAY IT DID. YOU GUYS ARE SO [BLEEP] UP. SHE DID NOT ONLY LOSE THE MAN SHE LOVED HER CHILDREN LOST THERE FATHER. THIS SHIT MIGHT MAKE YOU FEEL GOOD AND BIG ABOUT YOUR SELF BUT YOUR HURTING PEOPLE OUT THERE. JENNIFER HAS CHILDREN JUST WAITE TILL THE KIDS START TALKING ABOUT THIS AT SCHOOL. YOU MAY THINK YOUR HURTING JENNIFER YOUR GOING TO HURT THOSE KIDS.. I HOPE YOU FEEL GOOD ABOUT YOUR SELVES YOU [BLEEP] BASTARDS
YOU GUYS ARE ALL F***** UP THINGS HAPPEN LIKE FALLING OUT OF LOVE AND TRYING TO GET OUT OF THE RELATIONSHIP WHY WOULD CHEATEN BE AGAINST THE LAW.. IF THATS THE CASE THEN ALOT OF MEN AND WOMEN WOULD BE IN JAIL FOR THAT I I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF ANY ONE GOING TO JAIL FOR CHEATING WHILE MARRIED.. I DONT KNOW WHY YOU GUYS ARE BLAIMING JENNIFER HOW THE HOW WOULD SHE OF KNOWN THAT IT WAS GOING TO GO DOWN THE WAY IT DID.. NOW ONE COULD OF KNOWN. SHE WAS JUST TRYING TO GET OUT OF AN RELATION SHIP THAT SHE DID NOT WANT TO BE IN. ITS NOT HER FAULT THAT HER HUSBAND WAS DEPRESSED WHEN SHE DECIDED TO LEAVE HIM. WHO KNOWS HE COULD OF BEEN A HORIBBLE HUSBAND AND TREATED HER LIKE SH** KNOW ONE KNOWS. IN THE END YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO HURT THE KIDS. KIDS NOW A DAYS HEAR SHIT AND TALK I HOPE YOU GUYS FEEL GOOD ABOUT YOUR SELVES. I THINK YOU JUST A BUNCH OF F***** B*******
People stop blaming others for the act that Keith did. This act is all about POWER and CONTROL. KEITH threw a temper tantrum when he could no longer CONTROL his wife. Infidelity is not the answer ever but I sure know alot of people that have involved themselves in this behavior. Jack Purcell was a good person and at least was not a MURDERER. He was doing very well in his life and had lots of friends and people that supported him. He paid his debt to society and got help for his problems. Keith was a coward and had problems from the sounds and LOOKS of things. Normal and good people don’t solve thier problems by carrying a gun around. This continues to be a MAN’S BIGGEST PROBLEM because of their ego’s, but I do NOT see everyone up in arms when we see everyday about men doing this over and over. ie Tiger Woods and countless other men….. Why??? Cause I guess it is only bad when women do it huh!
Native, your first name wouldn’t be Jennifer, would it? If not, you two sure sound like two peas in a pod.
“Jack Purcell was a good person” where do you get that? Do you know the guy? If so, maybe you can tell us more about his grand theft and other run-ins with the law.
And I believe Jack had friends. Most convicted criminals do. And sometimes they’re real tight.
What we don’t know is how arrogant Jack was in his confrontation with the husband of the woman he was sleeping with. I can imagine “Come on, Keith, I satisfy her more than you ever could.” “She doesn’t want you any more, you’re such a loser” “Why don’t you just do everyone a favor and dissapear” or worse.
Keith shouldn’t have shot the guy. But there is such a thing as temporary insanity. I know a lot of people who have made knee-jerk reactions to situations. Granted, not this big, but how many of us have been confronted with what Keith was confronted with?
Talk about a string of idiotic choices. 1) cheat on your husband, 2) destroy him emotionally at dinner, 3) call your lover to confront your husband. 4) smear your husband in the newspaper within a few days of everything. It sounds like this woman made her bed.
And I agree something is wrong with her moral compass. I cant believe they are strapped financially but she insists on driving a Hummer? Who is this woman?
I think that 1) her children should be taken away, she is in no way a role model for these kids. and 2) if there’s anything she CAN be prosecuted for, she should be. (Ask Keith should have been if he was still alive… )
I don’t have much of an opinion about Jennifer other than people are blaming her for another actions and that is murder. Last time I checked Keith was the one who pulled the trigger. Keith was the nut that was following her around WITH a LOADED GUN!!! HELLO MCFLY it doesn’t take a genius to figure out that this guy, teacher or not was not playing with a full deck. Keith should have went and cooled off got a PILL or something but a gun NO. He killed an innocent person who may have had a record but MURDER appears no where on that record. I did not personally know Jack but three very important people in my life knew him and absolutely loved him. He is no longer here because of a jealous, selfish, self absorbed person took his life. You cannot say sorry or heal from murder. But I do know that you CAN heal and you CAN say your sorry for infidelity. No one can justify a murder, a momentarily loss of control??? Maybe that momentarily loss of control would not have happened had Kieth not been STALKING Jennifer. Again I say This is all about power and control and Keith having a temper tantrum that he could not control and it ended someones life.
Only bad when women do IT?
Right, that’s why Tiger Wood’s has lost millions of dollars worth of contractual deals since the news of his multiple extra marital affairs hit the news.
Like it or not, America is mostly a Christian society. 76% of us believe that marriage was given as a divine institution in which GOD gives a man a help mate, a woman, and the two shall cleave together as one.
When either the man or the woman breaks their marital vows then, that cheating spouse no longer believes in them self, their spouse or their marriage. They are willing to risk… everything: And Jennifer Matthias certainly did risk everything.
Refer to post #46, by dog:
The woman risked her marriage, profession, and family by becoming involved with a career criminal (bless, bless). Now those risks have been played, Jennifer has probably lost much more than she ever anticipated. Oh, well.
The insurance company will pay, right?
Note: Jennifer probably wasn’t anymore healthy than her husband, noted by her my healing fingers beliefs on her “facebook” page. No healthy person would have made such unhealthy decisions.
Tiger Woods has retired from Golf. About all these deals that he has missed out on… Hu? Haven’t personally seen the paperwork on that. Like it or not the 76% of America that believes in Marraige is divorced at least once. Check your facts before throwing them around. I do know about the sanctity of marraige but I also see the BIG difference in how women vs. men are treated when it comes to infidelity. It’s a boys club out there and alot of women have jumped on for the ride. I do understand how marraiges can go bad and sometimes people DO NOT make the wisest decisions, not justifying it or saying that it is okay. But Murder is not understandable or should be the answer.
Completely agree with post #49.
I don’t care how bad someone hurts you, it doesn’t somehow make it okay to snap and kill someone and then take the cowards way out by killing yourself.
I’ve got nothing but contempt for Jennifer and her actions leading up to this sad event but nothing she did even remotely excuses Keith’s response.
MULTIPLE CHOICE:
I was married to a _______(fill-in-blank) like Jennifer. My ex did something somewhat similar. She had another guy for some time but never told me about him. To make sure I’d find out, she created a confrontational episode between me and the new guy at my own home. In fact, he moved right into my home the night I found out.
I tried talking to her but she was cold as ice and a monster I never knew. Her voice even changed. She used language I never heard come from her mouth. Not bad language, just different. Although my guts and heart were twisted inside out, unlike Keith, I didn’t take the new guy out. I gave him the death stare, and left. I hit MYSELF with tons of beer and shot Vodka until I dropped. That same thing went on everyday for months and months.
In the meantime, I found a place to live and my friends kept me calm daily, weekly and monthly as I was dealing with the incredible anger. It’s been several years now and although I’m much better this incident has brought it all back. (Don’t worry, I’m still not gonna take the guy out.)
During that time, I eventually made a deal with God. Justice was turned over to Him. All I wanted was to be a witness whenever it came down upon them. I have not yet seen justice, but that doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened. (I have no idea where these two are today and don’t care to know.)
But, during those times, the anger was unbelievable and it cannot be described. It was much more extreme than just being ‘extremely mad’ or ‘infuriated.’ For me it was a condition that I could not curtail on my own.
I was rendered immobile and almost completely out of control of my body, mind and emotions. This carried on for months. My chest was clinched with a huge vise grip and I was trembling and shaking constantly. I weeped and wailed and threw things all over the place and punched walls and doors and boxes until my knuckles bled…usually daily. Not everybody experiences this, but I certainly did and it is very, very frightening. I had no idea I was capable of such horrible behavior.
It’s a test and I think Keith knows all about his own choices and consequences. By now, he’s multiplied and divided it. Plus, I think he was trying to protect his kids. The answer wasn’t right, but I can partially sum it up….No father wants the new guy around his kids.
If Jennifer ever comes out of her dissociative spell…I hope she’ll someday recognize her own responsibility in the matter and the pain she’s caused. I think that cheyerra’s post above is enlightening. Sometimes, I believe we are ALL mental patients in some way, but that description sounds very similar to someone I once knew.
I don’t like much of what I’ve read here or other places. All I know, is that ultimately, each person made a series of choices and will need to own responsibility accordingly.
What SADNESS I feel about it all and everything that has happened here. I hate that I’m now reeling in the emotions of all this again. Maybe it would take my yet unwritten book to help!
By the way, I have many multiple choice words to use in my ‘fill-in-the-blank’ up above. Upon reading , I suspect each of the teachers would grade me differently.
My stomach hurts. Good grief.
I honestly believe that the best revenge is to be happy after the pain of what heartless people put you through. I’ve had the necessity to apply this strategy more than once, and even though it’s not always immediately possible when you really need it, in time it is the best healer.
Always remember, the only person you control is you. Period.
And this is why so many people make fun of Idaho, especially SE Idaho. Embarrassing, thoughtless, and small-minded rants here. That and this online “paper” is full of typos. Hmm–how is this “better” than the Post Register?
Outsider, typical comment. You that live in far more intellectual, important, diverse places talking down to us “country bumpkins”. We don’t care about your opinion. If this site is so beneath you, stop reading or posting here. Not missing you! Merry Christmas
She might not have pulled the trigger – but she is to blame just as much as if she had. If it were not for her – Her husband and Purcell would never have crossed paths (as someone already said) I think it falls into sort of the same category as if you are with someone robbing a bank and the other person shoots and kills someone – you are just as guilty – or say you have an accident where a person dies – then your held accountable for it and charged with vehicular manslaughter. In this case – by her own admissions – she knew her husband was unstable and she was afraid of him. So then why did she tell him of the affair knowing he was unstable and had been suicidal in the past and then go to Walmart instead of the police if she was so scared of him. I think she should be held accountable as well – she committed a crime (adultery) and in the commission of the crime some one died. Should she not at least be charged for Adultery AND say reckless endangerment or even involuntary manslaughter or something??
I think Adultery would be hard to prove in an Idaho court since the other offender is dead and Jennifer has proven her hostile feelings towrds her former husband.. BUT how is Jennifer going to spin this to St. Peter at the Pearly Gates?. I think justice finally prevails just not always in a court of law.
“By the way, adultery is still a felony in Idaho.” This is true, but if you talk with a prosecutor about charging someone with adultery you’ll be laughed out of their office. NO ONE gets prosecuted as they see it as a victimless crime. Hmmmmm, seems to me there are a lot of victims in this and other cases.
Jennifer is a sad, sorry and self-involved woman. A narcissist and worse.
Forget St. Peter, how is she going to spin and justify this to his parents and entire extended family? The kids likely have aunts, uncles and cousins who’s relationships will be affected.
I think several insurance policies have clauses for suicide – no payout. At least there’s social security death benefits. What a mess.
Outsider #55 – brilliant post. This is an online blog, not a paper, not unlike hundreds of others across the country. Name your city and I’ll find something similar for your area. The spelling and grammar have nothing to do with the site and owners itself. Duh! (Just a little Idaho saying…!)
Oh yeah, I subscribe to several papers and today’s Idaho State Journal out of Pocatello has the exact Post Register/Sven Berg article as was posted up here – the one with her interview, comments about both men, etc. They’ve entitled this one “Powder Keg – Stage Set Months Ago for Fatal I.F. Confrontation”.
I love Jennifer, She had only been seeing Purcell for 2 weeks! yea right. Is that when she started counting!
I think her masters degree in education leadership should be revoked! She should be given an honorary doctorate degree in “how to blow your family up”.
If Keith was so bad, she should have filed for divorce.
She has a Hummer, no wonder their was a financial strain on the family.
It’s obvious that the neighbor in the paper was Jennifer’s friend!
I love how the newspaper allows her to give Keith’s side of the story!
What would you have done if your wife’s boyfriend pulled up beside you and told you what kind of man your not anymore!
does anyone remember watching Rocky 3? Where Clubber Lang(Mr. T) says to Adrian(Rockys wife) why don’t you come over to my house and Ill show you a real man. Rocky wanted to kill him right there. It seems like to me Purcell being Jennifer’s new STUD was in Keith’s face. Keith actions aren’t excuseable, but neither is Jennifer(the innocent bystander) or Purcell excused. If Jennifer truly feared for her life she would have left right after Keith had shot Purcell. She is such a liar, her story does not add up! But she has written it very well. One day the dead will SPEAK
The neighbor is full of SH….. SHE CAN SAY KEITH WAS MEAN TO THE KIDS AND YET THERE IS NOTHING TO VERIFY THAT AND KEITH CAN’T DEFEND HIMSELF. THE NEIGHBOR MUST THEN BE RIGHT IN HER STATEMENT.
TO SCHOOL DISTRICT 91: JENNIFER WILL NEVER BE MY CHILDS’ TEACHER!!!
Newspaper journalists don’t think very hard these days!
The only ones who deserve a candlelight vigil are the kids and Keith. I’m never buying from Johnson Bros. again. Their employees seem a little loony to me. I don’t care how much someone is nice on the outside. if their heart is mean, they are mean!
WHY IS EVERYONE DEFENDING THE MURDER?? Do all you who have said this is ALL Jennifer’s fault, know how Keith was AT HOME? Do you know if he was mean or not? If he was violent or not? Jennifer was not in the right to cheat, but again, how many people on here are perfect?? Really, i want to know. You people go ON AND ON AND ON AND ON about this lady that cheated, and NOTHING about the man who followed his wife with a gun, and MURDERED ANOTHER PERSON. How can you so easily overlook the MURDER?!?! do you think keith knew Jack was going to show up?? Doubtful. Who do you think he was planning on shooting that night?? think about it. So if it was Jennifer that he had shot, would you still defend Keith? Would it still be OK to murder someone b/c that person had hurt them?
I’m sure Keith was hurt, I would be too, but in NO WAY is this Jennifer’s fault.
why don’t all you people start judging yourselves before you slander and judge others. WOW..once again, i’m disappointed in our community.
Justin N Time,
So its HER fault he shot himself? So you’re saying their kids should be OK w/ what their dad did? that it didn’t matter he shot a man, but its all to blame on their mom? Please explain how Keith is not the murderer.
And how do you KNOW it wouldn’t have happened anyway? Do you know how their home life was? Do you know if he was violent before? Do you know if he had any prior mental problems? so you would be OK if somone MURDERED someone in your family because they had done something that upset them?? Would you blame your family member for the shooting?
No one knows how it truly was in the household. And yes, the kids are going to have deal with a lot. my heart HURTS for them. Adultery is one thing to deal w/, knowing that your father KILLED another person than took his own life is something entirely different.
KT,
and I quote “If their heart is mean,they are mean” So would this apply for Keith who you want to hold a vigil for? Last time i checked, MURDER wasn’t a nice thing. I would definitely classify it as “mean”.
I am not defending Keith, I’m saying that Jennifer should share some of the blame for this tragedy period. I do also think it is odd on her comments to the post register and how she admitted her husband was suicidal – yet she set things all into motion on that night. I think there needs to be further investigation and not just dropped! I think that Cheyerra on post #37 says it well! And most likely very close to the truth on who Jennifer really is!
AND To KT #65 – Johnson brothers had nothing to do with this awful tragedy. So you can’t blame them!!
Hey “Have A Heart”,
Your writing style sounds like it belongs to the same personwho wrote Jennifer’s narcissistic and moronic facebook profile. Hmmmm… It also sounds almost exactly like the author of the posts (supposedly) written by “Native”.
Compare the punctuation and the phrasing and it is pretty obvious..
Just the typical self justifications and manipulations of a pathologically narcissistic sociopath…
What are we doing here?Let sleeping dogs lie.Why condemn Johnson Brothers for actions of a employee on his own time. I don’t see the good in carrying on with this hateful diatribe!
I wouldn’t wish this on the worst of my enemies, but the prosecutor has more power in his arsenal than just adultery charges. He can ask the court to remove the children from the home. None of us knows what happened that night, nor will we ever as Jennifer will always tell the story to cast herself in the best light. But clearly, right or wrong, she has difficulty making appropriate decisions about relationships. I agree a person should keep their pants on when they’re married, but making a decision to sleep around has an affect on the children of the home as well as the married couple. This should give the prosecutor some cause for alarm as to how she will handle her children. And there is more at stake than just the life insurance. With daddy/hubby dead, she will be getting social security for herself and each of the children. Will the children’s social security be going to make the payments on her Hummer? Social services/child protection services can be an absolute nightmare and I’m not sure it’s appropriate, but it should be considered. IMO
To HaveAHeart re: post #66
Your comment doesn’t make sense. You imply that Keith was really going to shoot Jennifer that night because he didn’t know that Jack was going to show up. If he was really going to shoot Jennifer, why didn’t he? I think it’s more likely that he kept a gun in his car for protection as many others do. Then when he came face to face with his wife’s boyfriend maybe something was said that set him off. There is no proof that he took a gun specifically that night to shoot someone.
As for the wife’s story, it speaks for itself. It’s too bad we have to trust her to give Keith’s side though. Supposedly the family had money problems. Keith drove a Mazda but she still had her Hummer, gym membership, and man on the side. I found it really odd that after Jack Purcell was shot, instead of freaking out or trying to get away or saying what have you done, she instead tells Keith that he’s going to jail. It sounds like the ultimate vindictive woman that sees her new boyfriend get killed before her eyes and all she cares about is sticking it to the ex.
Wow Cheyerra, I’m sorry I “write” like Native. But i can promise you we are not the same person. Is it that hard to believe people disagree w/ your line of thought?
And now you’re attacking me b/c I don’t think there’s ANY excuse for MURDER?? I can tell you I’m not a narcissis or a moron. You can give out insults pretty fast can’t you? Its that wrong of me to not judge people?
I agree cheating is very wrong, but not worse or equal to murder.
“HaveaHeart,” my feelings go out to Mr. Matthias and his children, not to his cheating wife who started this mess in the first place. If I were one of her kids, I would never forgive her for betraying my father and ultimately causing his death. I’d be even more unimpressed by the fact that she slandered him in an interview before his body was even buried. Who wants to bet that she’ll be scoping for guys at the funeral?
I agree with Cheyerra’s post 37. If Jennifer has no remorse about this incident — which she obviously doesn’t — then she is simply inhuman. Whether or not Mr. Matthias had his own issues is irrelevant. Whether he was taking anti-anxiety medications — which Jennifer so tactfully mentioned in her interview — is irrelevant. It does not justify adultery. If she was so unhappy in her marriage, she should have filed for a divorce instead of screwing some scumbag felon.
Nobody with “a heart” feels sorry for this tramp. How bad could her life have been as she drove around in her Hummer that Mr. Matthias bought for her and met up with Jack at the gym?
Guest 550,
I’ve never said that Jennifer’s actions add up or make sense. I agree w/ you that she hasn’t made the best decisions, I don’t think i would do an interview two days after something like this. I just find it amazing that Keith KILLED a man and ALL people are talking about is how Jennifer cheated. I, as everyone else, don’t know the circumstances of that night. Maybe he did just keep a gun in his car, but still in that case, it was his decision to shoot Jack, not Jennifer’s. That’s all i’m saying.
Hey Have a heart,
I agree Keith actions were extremely wrong, there is no excuse. His actions were quit worse than anyone else. He will pay for them like no one else. But if he was alive and I were an attorney he would be one of the few murderers i would fight for. He was atleast temporarily insane. Jennifer and Purcell took away his life. In our society the type of people Jennifer and Purcell are don’t ever get punished. Everyone here is a victim except Jennifer. If Keith was so bad she should have divorced him.
The kids are the victims of 3 selfish people.
Student of Mr. Matthias,
So you can not justify cheating? I can’t either. But I can’t justify MURDER either, can you? I never said I feel bad for Jennifer. But she did not murder anyone. I just don’t think people should judge others w/out knowing the whole story. I guess i’m wrong in my thinking.
And i do feel HORRIBLE for the kids. I don’t know how you get over anything like this. but I do think they will be mad at BOTH of thier parents, not just their mom. Their mom made her decision to cheat, and their dad made HIS decision to Kill.
And just because she drove a Hummer doesn’t mean she was happy. You will learn money doesn’t buy happiness.
I agree KT. The kids are the VITCIMS in this story.
money didn’t buy her happiness
Hey HaveAHeart,
I was calling the author of Jennifer’s moronic facebook profile the narcissist, but since you and she and “Native” are obviously all the same person, I can see why your feeling all defensive and butt hurt…
Now I am going to go “No Contact” on you, which is the best way to handle a sociopath… Have a nice, empty life….
In this case, Mr. Matthias’s reaction is understandable. Being betrayed like that can cause a person to do crazy things that they wouldn’t normally do. If Jennifer hadn’t cheated, then none of this would have happened and Mr. Matthias would have had no reason to go temporarily insane. Or if she had called the police instead of her boyfriend, which would OBVIOUSLY provoke a conflict. I think she gets her jollies by men fighting over her so that she can bask in how “desirable” she is. Too bad the entire town hates her now.
Also, Jennifer is lying when she says that Mr. Matthias knew about the affair and was fine with it. That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard–”By the way, dear, I’m screwing an ex convict.” “That’s okay, honey. Want me to pick up some milk at the store?” I think it’s more likely that Mr. Matthias found out himself somehow by finding a text or some other clue of what was happening. It’s not exactly a topic that most people discuss over dinner.
Look at the polling data on this one. The results are close on assigning “blame.” Jennifer should have kept her marriage vows. Keith should have controlled his emotions better. Jack should not have been involved with a married woman. None of the adult actors in this drama are blameless. Plain and simple – it’s a tragedy. And the losers are the children and society. Sounds like Keith was a great teacher. Jennifer may have been also. The children have lost their father and their relationship with their mother will be forever damaged. There seems to be very little information about Jack’s family but he had to be someone’s son.
There’s enough “blame” to go around and enough heartbreak for everyone, no matter who’s to “blame.” Why focus on anyone besides the children and what’s best for them in the here and now. We can’t fix the past. It happened and it’s tragic. Now what? Is anyone capable of setting aside their own “blame” game and offer up a suggestion on how to help the children?
Tammy, I seriously doubt if IFPD will investigate any further, they have a nice and tidy open and closed case. IFPD couldn’t catch a cold in the arctic in winter. Maybe a Coroner’s Inquest is possible and I doubt the Prosecutor’s Office will do anymore.
I still question Jennifer’s actions that night from the dinner to break the news of the new boyfriend, not calling law enforement opting to call her knight in shining armor (over the prison fatigues) and then just sitting back watching in her rear view mirror, what would happen next. Then telling Keith he was going to jail. Did she call 911 after that? did she leave the scene? did she adjust her make-up?.
I know I’ve been guilty of it too but you’re right, there really isn’t a lot of good that comes from pointing fingers and playing the blame game. One good thing that can come from this discussion is making us pause and think about how our decisions often affect many others besides ourselves. Maybe somewhere down the road one of us will have an opportunity for a “harmless” little fling and decide not to do it. As for myself I know that I have learned some valuable lessons from this tragedy.
If she feared for her life, she would have immediately left the scene the moment Keith started shooting. I call her bluff.
I think Keith still cared enough about the kids and that’s why he didn’t shoot her also, and she knew he still cared.
The prosecutor needs to go after her for child endangerment and adultery.
Guest – post #84
I do agree – there is something wrong with her story or something. Her interview was all about taking the blame off herself. I would think – that if I were in her position – I would be devastated and feel so guilty that it was all my fault that these two people were dead. But I guess that would be me (smile). Still things just don’t add up? I wonder if all that positive energy she gets in her finger tips and passes to others did this? (What she wrote on facebook)! It’s too bad that the law does not look into it further – especially after her interview in the PR
OMG, you guys have got nothing on Birthers (those who think that Obama is a Kenyan), Truthers (those who think George Bush planned 9/11), Moonies (those who think we staged the moon landings), and other conspiracy nuts. Are your tin foil hats thinning a bit?
Jennifer did some very bad things leading up to this incident but its beyond ridiculous that some of you are seriously suggesting she orchestrated this whole thing. Because man if she can predict human behavior that well then I want to go to Vegas with her sometime and watch her play poker. She’ll make millions.
Jennifer had an affair. Something that millions of people do. That doesn’t excuse it but its not out of the ordinary either. She told Keith about her affair. He didn’t instantly snap but instead coldly and calculatingly stalked her by following her until he could find the guy she was sleeping with and assassinate him. Keith showed the ultimate form of narcissism.
Some of you are just sad sad pathetic little people with your conspiracy theories. I’ve extreme contempt for all cheaters, Jennifer included, but she didn’t cause this or want this to happen. I’ll bet many of you even call yourself christian, thank the stars I don’t hold to that belief given how hypocritical many of you are showing yourselves to be, and are in extreme violation of your own beliefs about judging others/
Jennifer didn’t waste any time getting to the PR and the PR didn’t ask any hard questions from what I read.
To cheyerra
You need to stop, really because thier could only be one person defending this murderer and that is you. And you keep on changing your name to make it look like you are more than one person. Come on people get a life I do not need to PRETEND I AM SOMEONE else. Get a life talk about the issues instead of getting mad that their are more people that believe that Mr. Matthias is a murdering punk.
I never once have said that their is good reason for infidelity. I only have said that time would heal. How are you going to heal from being dead. Jack was a good person that did not deserve to be killed. Can anyone say “Take responsibility for your actions” If Jack was your son, or your brother, you would not be so quick to judge or cast stones. Keith was a bomb waiting to explode, neighbors, students, and others have told a story about a loose canon, not an innocent dad sitting around taking care of his children. Mr. Matthias should have been at home that night packing him and kids up and taking them to a safe place while he filed for a divorce. Mr. Matthias had options other than MURDER!!! MRS. MATTHIAS had other options as well but the truth of the matter is that neither one was with the ones that really mattered and that is the kids. Mr. MATTHIAS is a MURDERER who should not be made out to be the victim in any sense, his actions caused death and destruction. Mrs. Matthias actions only caused a couple extra years in the shrinks office.
Hi “Native” AKA “Have A Heart” AKA Jennifer,
Instead of justifying your own sleazy affair and skanky behavior, (like you did in the Post Register interview) you should be feeling intense shame and remorse like any normal human without a character disorder would in your situation… Can’t wait to see what user name you’ll come back with next…. Any name you chose, it’s still painfully obvious that your an empty, manipulative sociopath…. I pity your poor children…
Hi native/HaveaHeart/Jennifer. I think Cheyerra had it right when she said that you’re the same person.
Who else has said that Mr. Matthias is a “murdering punk?” As far as I can see, the vast majority of us are understanding of his reaction to complete emotional devastation. Check out the poll results. What we don’t understand is why you called up your redneck knight in shining armor instead of the police if you were really so afraid. And if Mr. Matthias is so dangerous, why on earth did you risk your pathetic life by shouting “You’re going to jail!” at him when he had a gun in his hand?
Compare Mr. Matthias’s record to Jack Purcell’s record on the Idaho Repository. The wonderful Jack Purcell has several cases of domestic violence and theft. What does Mr. Matthias have? A speeding ticket. Scandalous. Oh yeah, and bankruptcy because his wife cleaned out his bank account on Hummers.
To Cheryerra
Wow is all I can say… Empty Manipulative Sociopath uh ok….. I pity you and your attempt to grasp at straws.
Wow you sound like a real gem there lady…… God bless you and yours at this time of year and really God Bless!!
to Student of Mr. Matthias
MURDER was not on that Idaho Repository report.
I don’t know what to be more surprised about, the fact that you answered my entire post with just one sentence or the fact that you didn’t deny that you are Jennifer.
Hey Jennifer,
thanks for your “blessings”, but I’m afraid you and I don’t serve the same God… You’ll get to see that for yourself one day, in the meantime you can keep spewing out your self justifications, but as you can see for your (pathetic) self when you read the majority of the posts, your blatant lies and manipulations are transparent. With the exception of “Native” and “Have A Heart” public opinion of you is almost anonymous… Sorry you won’t be driving your Hummer to meet your loser boyfriend this Christmas break, but don’t worry you can just use your Gym membership to pick up another loser before Spring break….
OK now we have Jennifer here, wait not me Native/HaveaHeart, we need a roster.
Guest (84)
You do have a point there – Maybe she’ll do another interview – Ya think? (grin)
All the people out there that think we are condoning what Keith did – it probably seems that way – only because he’s not alive to start hollering HANG HIM! We all already now he’s guilty – there are just some of us that have alot of questions about this Jennifer.
Wow I am not Jennifer or Have a heart. you can go to my myspace page if any of you want to give me your email and I would be glad to let any of ya know. Wow people lets get a clue.
What the heck people… If Keith was on Anti Depressants or Anxiety pills… Maybe it was because she
(Jennifer DIRT BAG #1)
was destroying their life financially, while secretly sleeping with …
(Jack Purcell DIRT BAG #2) OH YEAH DID I MENTION … PRIOR CRIMINAL. GRAND THEFT … Steal what you want…. Even if it someone else’s wife…Guess he didn’t learn from the prison time…
There needs a petition started to get her out of the school districts. FACTS: A teacher involved with a convicted criminal. Don’t think this passes the back ground check. This HARLOT needs forced out of the school district.
Quit the pity party for her…Look at Keith’s vehicle, look at hers. He has on old rusted out truck. Her new HUMMER???? HMMM Roughly the same income… SHE IS A LYING TRAMP. Probably was buying new clothes for her an her new Beau while not paying the family bills. Keith was trying to give her everything he could. …Now for a little unknown FACT.. I learned from one of the Neighbors that lives 1 block away from Keith and Jennifer (DIRT BAG # 1). Jack (Dirt Bag #2) was going around meeting the neighbors stating that he was going to be moving into the neighborhood. WOW… JACK IS A DIRT BAG AND SO IS THIS BIMBO JENNIFER… She called her boyfriend to rough up or try to scare her husband..(Remember her talk of the GYM) . Didn’t work out like you thought huh JENNY…? You either huh Jack…? Guess you can’t answer that . If Jennifer was so unhappy, then why didn’t she leave…? It is because she wanted her security set up before leaving her husband. Once she was close, she dropped the bomb… Probably told her husband… Oh by the way… This criminal I am with is going to be your kids Daddy, and I will make sure you don’t get to see them… Also her story said “she went to ask if Jack wanted to continue this now that she was going to be a single mother of three…?” Did she think Jack was going to say … NO I ONLY LIKE DESTROYING PEOPLES MARRIAGES..? (She’s a peach)
Keith may have known about his past and did what he had to protect his kids
Johnson Brothers employees are known for having employees/guys sleep with other peoples wives. Ask the owner… He is sleeping with a married woman. I won’t do business there either…
I think women in general have a difficult time understanding the biologically driven reaction men have to cuckoldry. In an evolutionary sense, cuckoldry is the male equivilant to rape. This is a concept that has been well discussed in other blogs (especially PUA blogs), so it is worth a google.
I just found out that Mr Matthias was actually a serial killer!! they found multiple body parts in his desk at the school and discovered that hed been consuming human flesh for at least 15 years now! I knew he was dangerous.
Also it turns out Jennifer is a super human saint sent by God himself to heal the area of pain and suffering.
As for Mr Purcell he has a long criminal record and spent half of the last 15 years in jail. He is also a home wrecker, BUT he recently descovered he like sprinkles on his ice cream. How can a guy who likes sprinkles be bad?
Hey Native/Have a Heart/Jennifer/Skank
It’s blatantly obvious that “Native” and “Have a Heart” are the same person. You both capitalize the word “murder” and you both start several of your posts with the word “wow”. You also randomly capitalize in your posts and use very similar types of punctuation. This being obvious , then the only motive for a poster on this blog to pretend be two different people (in order to vehemently defend Jennifer’s skanky behavior) is because it is in fact Jennifer. I would expect more than “wow”, and random capitalizations and teenage style punctuation from a magical healer with a Master’s Degree…Nice try, sociopath
God bless you again And again different people what is the deal no one in Idaho Falls can have a different opinion. Like I said I will email my myspace page and you can see what I look like and no NOTHING like Jennifer. I will be sleeping with my husband tonight that I have been maried to for 25 years and I will be spending Christmas with my 5 children and 14 grandkids. I love myspace and facebook (I have both).
Again I am stating Mrs. Matthias did not take another human life!! I have seen this type of behavior over and over again and it is all about Power and Control and his temper tantrum. This man has been in Idaho Falls long enough and made enemy’s with alot of parents whom he belittled and treated like crap. I have had the honor of meeting and dealing with him and so have alot of other people I know. I did not walk away feeling all warm and fuzzy inside. Yeah this ordeal of him SNAPPING well alot of things caused him to snap and he just took another human life. SELFISH!!! I am glad he had the nerve to end his life because everyone is better off without this guy walking around waiting to explode.
I just learned that Jennifer was behind 9/11. She planned the whole thing in one of her Machivellian schemes to make herself rich.
Keith meanwhile is being considered for sainthood by the Vatican, nevermind that he’s not catholic, because he’s just an all around swell guy and he likes puppies.
Guest I like that one oh but I can’t like it or we will be accused of being the same person. HAHAHA
Mr Mathias was at one point an amateur bodybuilder who one the lottery. And Jennifer and Kieth both own Hummers. That explains how teachers are both driving Hummers. The lottery money could also go the Jen. This is info from a student of Mr. Mathias. And the facebook mentions mr had a h2 and ms an h3. check it out if your in doubt. Im done with this now. spoiling my Christmas spirit. bye
But we are all the same people. We are legion, just like Jennifer.
Hey Guest,
You got that one right, she is unfortunately legion… And I’m with dog, this skank with her manipulations and lies and pathetic self justifications is not worth any more of my time or energy … I just have one more question I want to put out there to Miss “Healing Fingers”, were you able to come up with something a little less juvenile and more original than “wow” when you were in the back seat of your hummer with your convict, scumbag Prince Charming?
Now I’m going “No Contact” with this Sociopath….
Native, Are we talking about the same person? Mr. Matthias was one of the most mellow teachers on staff. He never yelled at his class, never even raised his voice. Even the superintendent said that he never seemed “angry” at work. That’s not even the point, though. I don’t care if he was the scum of the earth, there is NO excuse for his wife to cheat. End of story. And if she hadn’t stupidly called up Jack Purcell and provoked a conflict between the men, nobody would have died. Or, better yet, if she had kept her legs closed until after she was divorced.
Nobody would even be having this conversation if she didn’t slander Mr. Matthias in the Post Register interview, though. Before I read that article, I just thought she was a selfish, airheaded bimbo who made a big mistake. After reading all the disparaging crap she said about Mr. Matthias in that interview, I then realized that she is a sociopathic airheaded bimbo who gets off on men fighting over her.
Native, you do have to admit that your writing style (if you can call it that) is remarkably similar to HaveaHeart’s. I hate to inform you that capitalizing ‘murder’ doesn’t make your drivel more compelling.
“I think she gets her jollies by men fighting over her so that she can bask in how “desirable” she is.” I think you have a point there. No one who has never been on the receiving end of a CHEATER has any idea the devastation one feels. Does this justify murder? NOPE. But it certainly can result in temporary insanity. Think about it ppl. Jennifer’s behavior, both before and after this tragic event, is despicable.
I am a proud gun carrying american citizan. I have to say though if my wife was having an affair I would say to her more power to you have a great life. No one is worth that much. I am not saying that the husband was wrong, but maybe he needed to let her go. We are all going through hard times, but no one is worth murder or suicide. Life is short.
On this Festivus, as we air our grievances and verbally show our strengths, may we keep the Matthias’ children in our prayers that they may receive comfort during the most difficult holiday and time in their lives.
Well said Wendyjo. All this talk about facebook – I don’t understand how some people use it so flippantly when it comes to “friends” – but why would the witness to the murder, “Jodie Duffin”, talk about what she saw at Walmart on her wall, and a few days later has “befriended” Jennifer Matthias on her page? Check out both of their walls. Maybe since the witness is so desparate to drink and get a babysitter, both women can find good childcare and get wasted together. Forget about those holiday blues.
Boy, some people sure make friends in an odd way…..
No one is worth murder or suicide. (I didn’t capitalize murder) I hope that if someday I ever commit a murder that some of these same people that are on this blog are sitting on the jury. I will be set free yah for me!!! I could just see it now,
“No, I am not responsible the devil made me do it, I could not control myself, please drag my wife in here, convict her she is the one that made me do it”
Or maybe a domestic violence case
“Hey this broad wouldn’t close her legs, she made me beat the crap out of her, she made me belittle her and oh yeah because of her she got beat down, she just would shut up so I had to hit her”
Sounds like the cases that some of you non- judgemental christians are making. I just hope that someday one of kids or grandkids has to deal with you where all the blame is placed on someone else and the old saying of “Take responsibility for your own actions” does not come into play. I agree with someone up top that says this is bumming me out Happy Holidays to all I am out of here.
Dear Conceled,
Has your wife ever had an affair? If not, may I suggest that you have no REAL idea how you’d react? I’m not saying you’d commit murder, but I am saying until it happens to you, you have no idea the range of emotions one experiences. Truly. You. Have. No. Idea.
People snap and they snap in all sorts of situations. Adultery is one of the most painful sorts of betrayal one can ever experience. I know. I’ve been on the receiving end of 3 affairs between 2 spouses. Perhaps I should have chosen better, and hindsight is 20/20. C’est la vie.
BTW, I didn’t kill the affair partner(s), but ask anyone who’s been betrayed on this extreme level, and if they’re honest they’ll tell you they fantasized about such. I’m just sayin’. Perhaps everyone can factor this in to Mr. Matthias’s state of mind.
I agree with you, Native. No adulteress is worth committing suicide over, especially not a sociopathic, materialistic airhead whose face looks like an emoticon. Mr. Matthias should have just left her alone to be with her redneck in shining armor so that she could eventually be the victim of Jack’s domestic abuse. You’ve obviously never been cheated on before if you don’t realize the wide range of devastatingly painful emotions that it causes. Yes, Mr. Matthias made the wrong choice, but he was in a completely understandable state of temporary insanity due to what his wife subjected him to.
What are you talking about, “She made me beat the crap out of her?” Sounds like someone needs to visit the mental hospital. Mr. Matthias didn’t even lay a finger on her, which is commendable because if I saw her face-to-face right now, it would take every ounce of my self-control not to punch her in the teeth. As someone said before, she didn’t pull the trigger, but she might as well have. Her idiotic and selfish actions led to this mess.
I’m done with this conversation. I realize that it’s futile to have a coherent discussion with someone who writes “HAHAHA” and makes insipid jokes on a messageboard discussing a murder-suicide tragedy.
Student – I hope you don’t leave and continue to post here wherever you desire. For a high school student, you write very well and I’d hate to see one poster run you off.
My ex spouse did cheat on me so I know exactly how it feels – hell I know it even worse because she got pregnant to boot. As I’ve already said in this thread I got my revenge by divorcing her, getting custody, and leading a much happier life without her. She has since expressed enormous regret as her life is a shambles now.
I was devastated when I got cheated on but I’m not a crazy lunatic who decided to resolve the situation by assassinating my wife’s lover. The whole “snapped” and “temporary insanity” excuse you guys keep throwing out is stupid. If Keith snapped as you say he would have done so at her when he found out. Instead he coldly and calculatingly stalked Jennifer until he could find Jack and assassinate Jack. Keith may have been great a teacher, I don’t know, and he might have been a good father, again I don’t know, but on this night he was a cold blooded murderer who did his acts with purpose. A person who snapped doesn’t drive away and then come back and put another bullet in a guys head to make sure he’s dead. A person who does that is a violent psychopath.
Does anyone know if Keith Matthias has a valid CWP? If so, he was not “stalking with a gun” like some of you accuse. If he normally carried in his vehicle, like I do, then it was at his disposal legally.
I disagree with him coldly stalking his wife. He was told about her affair that SAME afternoon. So thoughtful of her, one day after he sought help and obtained a anti-depressent prescription. He didn’t stalk her to dinner, it was mutally agreed on. At dinner, more talk about the “now open, no secrets” affair. IMHO I think he snapped when she called Purcell to rescue her in the parking lot. Maybe he only followed her there to see if she was meeting up with him, which she ADMITTED she was going to immediately talk to Purcell to see if he was ready for her and her 3 kids. (wow, meet a guy in April, sleep with him for “2″ weeks, and spring the rest of your life on him – nice – wonder if the kids knew a new daddy was already in the works).
Admittedly, none of us will ever know and I give Jennifer Matthias zero credibility after her interview.
Sadly, Matthias had a few minutes to think after he killed Purcell, and probably decided he had nothing to live for and didn’t want to face his kids from a visiting room the rest of their lives. Maybe he thought they’d be better off without him. That and knowing your marriage is dead.
My aunt found out the hard way there are suicide clauses in life insurance policies when her S.O. shot himself. Not a dime.
How old are the kids anyway?
Great discussion here!
I just want to add, that if Keith Matthias had a gun in his car because he intended to kill Jennifer, don’t you think he would have done that?
No, I think he didn’t kill her because he still loved her. I think he was hurt, wrenching inside. Purcell probably provoked him, and provocation is taken into consideration in legal cases.
Also, somewhere in the discussion a person said “Keith made a decision to murder.” I disagree with that. Jennifer made the decision to cheat on her husband, that was definitely a decision. But i don’t think Keith’s was a decision. It was probably more likely an impulsive reaction based on the situation Jennifer and Purcell created. Kind of like the instinctive reaction to swat at a bee that just stung you. I don’t think its quite that simple, but similar for sure. He certainly didn’t sit and think things through.
One final thing, the thought of a convicted felon moving in to be a father over your own children may have had a role to play in his reaction as well. And truthfully, he may have saved his children from Purcell. If so, and if that played into his reasoning (if he was able to have any at that moment in time) he may have been doing what he could to protect his children.
Anon #120 – last paragraph – wow, great point, hadn’t even thought of that yet.
Good thing I can lurk here and finish all my Christmas cooking/baking at once. Talk about multi-tasking….
This whole thing is such a tragedy! The hapless husband fighting personal demons, the disaffected wife, looking for an escape from an unhappy union, the ne’er-do-well boyfriend with a shady past who hit the happiness love lottery with his new schoolteacher girlfriend. None expecting they were on a love triangle of speeding trains all heading to the ultimate vanishing point where a disaster of a train wreck was waiting to happen. Matthias could have plugged in the variables in a math equasion and found the ultimate conclusive result. Jennifer, with her background in Education could have charted the trends and predictefd based on simple psychology what Keith’s response would be. Purcell, so newly minted a contributing member of society was just trying out his wings and looking for direction and a mentor. Probably he would have done better to look elsewhere than another man’s wife?. This disaster not only affects the partiipants, (two dead, one left to sit in stunned disbeliev among the rubble and refuse of her destroyed life), but also the lives of each of their families, close friends, the fatherless childre n, the teacher-less students, and the community, all who sit in shock and disbelief and anger over the uselessness of it all. Who’s to blame? Aren’t we all, for not supporting a family in crisis? For being so tolerant of immoral behavior that we allow such blatent immorality to be acted out without anyone protesting? When we all watch and enjoy TV shows that glamorize this kind of behavior night after night? Don’t we all wink and smile and look the other way when our friends carry on their “little affairs” or do other things that are immoral? If we as a culture tolerate immoral behavor by creating no consequences for those who violate the generally accepted code of behavior, then we are ALL guilty. Silence is aqueisence. Aqueisence is permission. Permission is collusion. Collusion is guilt.
One final observation for me. Keith didnt seek Jack out. Jen was in the parking lot acting like she didnt know Keith was there. Then she called Jack and told him where Keith was. Jack then located Keith and drove up beside him. Do you think he said “hey pal, how are you this evening?” likely more along the lines of ” Hey a@@$&%$! Why are you following your wife? GEt the F%$# out of here if you know whats good for you!”
Keith says ” excuse me who do you think you are?, this is my wife and mother of my kids, you stay out of this!”
JAck may respond. ” Not any more looser, shes done with you and decided to go for a real man who can satisfy her the way you never did! ”
“you have no idea what your talking about”
“So come and teach me then, tough guy, im right here. Ya, thats what i thought, break down and cry you b$#@h.”
Im getting carried away now, i admit, but you get the idea. it may have been alot worse even. we will never know. But we do know he never intended harn on Jen or he would have certainly done that.
of to work now
Im gettig carried away now but you get the point.
Dog, you may think you’re getting carried away, but I think you could be very close to what happened there. Given Purcell’s violent past and prison time, it wouldn’t suprise me one bit that that’s basicly how it went down.
Loose woman hooks up with tough-guy ex convict and starts sleeping with him. Tells her husband “we’re through and I’m taking the kids. And, by the way, my boyfriend is moving in next week.” The husband is cruchsed. He loves his wife, loves his children, sees his world crumbling before his eyes. His wife then gets the tough-guy boyfriend to confront her husband and put him in his place. Dog’s description of what happens above (or worse) takes place and his emotions, hurt, pain, and devistation overcome the husband, and he snaps.
If I was this woman’s children, I’d never forgive her for what she did to my father or our family. I’d want nothing to do with her any more.
A JUDGE SHOULD TAKE THESE CHILDREN AWAY FROM HER. She makes wreckless decisions, and is totally unfit to be a mother!
You should know how to spell reckless if your going to calling someone that.
That said, Whisper clearly is clueless about the law and foster care system if he / she thinks that there are even remotely any grounds to take away the kids from Jennifer.
Based on what I have learned from members of the community who know Jennifer (vs news media), Jennifer was a controlling wife. Keith may have been emotionally dependent on her a bit too much. She drove Keith to a cliff and pushed him off. She’s trying to make herself appear innocent. She cannot be trusted. Her actions vs comments to the news media conflict. May we all have compassion for Keith’s loss of control in a situation driven by his hateful wife’s actions.
Guest, You should know how to punctuate “you’re” and use the proper tense of “to call” before you stick your nose up in the air and call someone else ignorant. I can’t claim to know much about the foster care system, but it seems to me that the kids will be taken away soon enough anyway if Jennifer continues to have flings with ex-convicts who have a history of domestic violence.
I’m not sure how old the kids are, but I had the impression that they’re college age. Can anyone verify this?
Jennifer Matthias wrote:
“I believe I have a gift of healing, and through focused meditation and touch, have “healed” ailments of those around me.”
Apparently the magic failed to work on her husband, who was suffering from insane jealousy. But it seems Jennifer believed, or pretended to believe, she healed Jack Purcell, at least temporarily.
However, it is also clear that Jennifer used Purcell as a catalyst to end her marriage, which has obviously become a boring and insufferable grind.
Did she foresee her husband’s reaction to losing his marriage? Perhaps she had a hint that he might kill himself over the loss of her and whatever he thought they had. But did she consider the possibility he would kill Purcell too?
Maybe. Two birds with one stone? She knew he had the guns to do the job. But most likely she failed to understand her husband, finding him tiresome and wishing he would drop dead. She had had enough of him and wanted out, and figured cutting the cord with a single move was best.
She wrote:
“I also feel energies and can move positive energy from myself to another through my fingertips. Although it is a gift I sometimes fear, it happens whether I want it to or not.”
Perhaps this is Jennifer’s way of admitting her guilt for starting a series of actions that began when she imparted energy to her husband that sent him into a rage mixed with hopelessness and despair, and ended with the kinetic energy of the bullets tearing into the heads of the two men she maneuvered into a confrontation.
She done them both wrong. How dangerous was Purcell?
People are giving this woman a lot of credit and believing that she has a lot of power. I’d be willing to bet that what actually happened was much less dramatic than people think.
Another possible scenario:
He was troubled and nearing the end of his rope, she wasn’t sure what to do when he followed her and made a snap decision under stress. The boyfriend showed up, and could have said anything at all, even maybe calmly telling the husband to just go home and it could all be dealt with later.
The truth is, we don’t know what happened, and people tend to mentally embellish when they have no real information.
It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.
Alice,
Time to leave “la la land” behind and use your brain…You don’t have to be there as a witness to see how her behavior and her slanderous comments regarding her husband in the interview are bizarre , disturbing and despicable ….
There is no doubt that she has her own issues, but whatever really happened is going to be overshadowed by what people will imagine to have happened… that’s all I’m saying.
Alice,
I agree that she definitly has her “own issues” and those “issues” are what caused all of this…. her behavior before, during and after has been bizarre and despicable…. Sorry, but I just can’t imagine your suggested possible scenerio consisting of a mellow conversation between her husband and the violent ex- felon whom she was banging ….
I’m appalled at some of the comments here and I don’t buy the “temporary insanity” plea. That’s a cop out. Despite the “issues” this couple may or may not have had and despite this woman cheating on her husband, that doesn’t negate the fact that this man killed another human being! Anyone who has compassion for this man or feels pity towards him has got serious issues themselves imo. People cheat on their spouses all the time, that doesn’t give anybody the right to take another persons life. That’s what divorce court is for.
Well said CR67.
There are people here who are making Jennifer out to be the most evil person in the world. Her facebook page makes her sound eccentric but many people are like that. And she had an affair just like countless people have done. And there was a confrontation between her husband and her lover, something that happens A LOT in these situations. But very rarely do you see someone do a murder / suicide and when you do you don’t need to look any further than the whackjob who committed the murder / suicide.
Guest, Most murder/suicides involving a spouse who has an affair take place when the cheater and the lover are walked in on. The betrayed person feels like their world is crashing around them and, like it or not, there is such a thing as temporary insanity in situations like this.
Mr. Matthias’s case is even worse because the bimbo called her scumbag in shining armor to “protect” her. Anyone with half a brain (or a slice of empathy) could figure out that pitting the two men against each other would cause a conflict that could become very ugly. If she hadn’t called the scumbag, nobody would have died that night.
The most bizarre aspect of this story is that instead of lying in bed and wallowing in grief and guilt as any normal person would have done, Jennifer was slandering Mr. Matthias in the Post Register a day later, and that is simply despicable. Mr. Matthias’s reaction to complete betrayal and emotional devastation was much more understandable than Jennifer’s reaction to the deaths of two men she was involved with.
Looking at the Ten Commandments, both adultery and murder are sins. There’s a reason why killing is before adultery on the list though, because it is (obviously) the worse of the two sins.
Someone above mentioned that if they murdered someone, they hoped some of the people commenting here would be on the jury because they would set him free. I’d have to agree. I noticed several people here aren’t that twisted but some here obviously are.
The kids have one parent left as a result of this tragedy. Jennifer did not kill anyone (period). If we are trashing the only parent they have now, then that says much more about us than it does about anyone else.
Something interesting about the poll on this subject. The “Jack Purcell” option has a much lower percentage of votes than any of the votes for Jennifer.
This means that people somehow blame Jennifer for the whole thing, and having an affair etc. but many of those same people don’t blame Jack for having an affair with a married woman. I think this shows some pretty warped thinking lol.
I love this site – it gives a forum for everyone and therefore exposes the nutballs around here.
Student of Mr Matthias wrote:
“Anyone with half a brain (or a slice of empathy) could figure out that pitting the two men against each other would cause a conflict that could become very ugly. If she hadn’t called the scumbag, nobody would have died that night.”
Absolutely true.
Student also wrote:
“The most bizarre aspect of this story is that instead of lying in bed and wallowing in grief and guilt as any normal person would have done, Jennifer was slandering Mr. Matthias in the Post Register a day later, and that is simply despicable.”
Also true. Her response reminds me of OJ Simpson and his post-murder claims about his wife’s evil character.
Student also wrote:
“Mr. Matthias’s reaction to complete betrayal and emotional devastation was much more understandable than Jennifer’s reaction to the deaths of two men she was involved with.”
Perhaps, after it was over, she felt she had won the Daily Double, at least, on her terms.
Regarding Post #137
You find Jennifer “Eccentric”? More like WHACK…
Anyone who claims she has magical healing fingers needs her (air-filled) head examined..
Wonder if she is gifted with any other magically healing parts on her anatomy… Wonder if Prince Scumbag enjoyed exploring those additional healing parts in the backseat of her hummer while it was parked in the health club parking lot while her husband was at work or spending time with his kids….
Regarding Post #139
No one on here or anywhere else needs to TRASH Jennifer, she did a great job of that herself….
light bulb and “Catsup”, As far as we know, Jack was single other than his affair with Jennifer. He is at fault as well, but not nearly as much as Jennifer because she was married with three children and yet she still chose to have an affair. Talk about selfish! Her decision to have an affair with a felon was much more formulated than Mr. Matthias’s spur-of-the-moment reaction to Jennifer purposely causing a conflict between him and Jack. It’s unfortunate that the only parent the kids have left is the one who obviously cares more for herself than them.
Nobody is saying that murder was the best choice that Mr. Matthias could have made –obviously it isn’t –but we can put the situation in context and realize that his reaction was understandable. Jennifer didn’t pull the trigger, but she set up the scenario and then sat in her Hummer with a blank expression instead of crying or showing any signs of trauma at all, which would be a normal reaction. Then she promptly slandered Mr. Matthias in the Post Register expecting everyone to see what a “victim” she is. Sorry, but I have a hard time feeling pity for her. Poor Jennifer, all she did was have an affair and split apart her family and set up the situation for two men to die with a front-row seat in her Hummer! Bring out the violins.
So, “light bulb,” everyone who disagrees with you is a nutball and the woman who mows the front lawn in a bikini and thinks she has magical healing powers isn’t? That aside, she has the nerve to defend herself after she caused this tragedy. The Post Register interview is the clincher — if she had quietly receded into the background after the incident, nobody would have to know what a piece of work she is. But sociopaths never quietly mind their own business, do they? They thrive on drama and hogging the limelight, so of course she would jump at the opportunity to throw a public pity party for herself.
One more observation that I forgot to mention: Jennifer said that her affair was “no secret. Everybody knew about it!” Um, how many different ways are there to say “liar?” Does she really expect people to believe that Mr. Matthias knew about her relationship with Jack and was FINE with it? Not to mention her kids, friends, co-workers, etc.? There aren’t many people who would say, “You’re having an affair with a felon? Good for you, Jenny!” There’s no getting around the fact that Jennifer’s reaction to this tragedy and her transparent justifications are abnormal to say the least.
Jennifer would not be the first woman to use one man to drive another from her life. She may not have envisioned a murder/suicide, but she knew that knowledge of her relationship with Purcell would go deep under her husband’s skin and upset him enough to exit her life.
Maybe she figured the hurt and humiliation her husband would feel as a result of knowing she was sexually involved with a man living on the fringe of criminality would finish off the last of her husband’s wish to stay together.
Whatever. By her manipulative actions, she stomped him, and he responded, perhaps solving all the problems she believed she had.
Does anyone know if she was a beneficiary to any life insurance policy carried by Purcell? Meanwhile, despite the suicide, her husband’s life insurance will probably pay off. Insurance policies usually include a suicide clause that refuses payment if the suicide occurs within TWO YEARS of the issuance of the policy. Undoubtedly his life insurance policy had been in force far longer than two years.
Well, I ran into an old collegue of mine this weekend out after-Christmas shopping. Turns out, she is/was (I better not say exactly) an employee of Bush Elementary, same place as Matthias works. Apparently, it’s been no secret their marriage has been problematic the last few years and also no surprise to staff she has been cheating.
I see also the funeral service for Matthias was held, but didn’t see an obit printed. Saw the one for Purcell though. Must have been kept very private.
In going about my daily activities ive heard many people talk about this situation. And not a single person has said anything good about Jennifer. There are, however, a few wackos that shop at places like The Shadow Domain, and think that adultry is not nice, BUT normal (most likely because they themselves engage in it). These type of people pop up online places like this more so than in daily life, because they usually spend a lot of time here because it beats having a real life. (people actually posted on Christmas?). many people realize that… “the tragedy of man is not that he dies, but what dies within him while he is still living”. something like that. There are ways to harm your fellow man and leaving him suffering all his life that are every bit as cruel as murder. Jennifer knows all about it
No, Jennifer probably doesn’t know all about it even though her fingers pass on the living death to others. No wonder her power scares her.
Anyone who is focusing the most on someone other than Keith may have some guilt they’re over-compensating for. Just forgive yourselves and move on – Jesus already has. Ok I know that might not be relevant to everyone.
I know there are other reasons and beliefs why someone my be distracted by the adultery aspect.
If it is relevant to anyone reading this though, my personal advice that has worked for me so far as of many many years ago when I married: There WILL be temptations-especially if you may be no model, but you aren’t bad looking either. To avoid such a betrayal and having such a momentary lapse of reason that you will regret, is to do everything you can to avoid any situation in the future that could test your integrity. This doesn’t mean all such situations can or should be avoided – just the unnecessary ones. I’m just talking about the basics – e.g. if you’re married, obviously don’t pursue such things yourself, but if some attractive (or unattractive) lady offers to buy you dinner with no one else invited, find a polite way to turn her down.
I’m no consistent expert on integrity, but I think it’s a good topic for another thread unrelated to this topic. It seems to me as though the willingness to minimize those situations is part of integrity. Resist those unnecessary situations at least as much as you resist cheating itself – equate those two things. We can’t always avoid all these situations anyway so at least tilt the odds in your favor. There are already enough temptations in life all areas and we’re all flawed humans (and I have a strong case that I have more flaws than most), so at least take as many of those situations out of the mix as you can.
Regarding this actual topic, the main point is this: if Keith hadn’t hadn’t decided to murder two of God’s children then we’d either not be talking about this at all, or most people wouldn’t be interested.
anonymous wrote:
“if Keith hadn’t hadn’t decided to murder two of God’s children then we’d either not be talking about this at all, or most people wouldn’t be interested.”
Obviously god did not care about these two children, as the murder/suicide shows. Maybe Jennifer put her magic hands on god, and in return, her prayers were answered.
Dog (comment 146), I don’t really see what sniping at Shaddow Domain and calling my customers adulterers has to do with this thread, but I guess when you just want to slam someone, you throw it in when you can. I do also know that there are people on this board that are my customers, and I’m pretty sure we aren’t all adulterers.
Oh, and as far as posting on Christmas, I wasn’t the only one, and I really don’t remember there being anything in the “Christmas Etiquette” handbook regarding taking a moment to breathe and relax with my computer. I’ll be sure to look that up
Back on topic, I’m sure we have all known people who have reacted to tragedy in ways that may or may not be considered the cultural “normal”. I knew someone who’s mother passed away unexpectedly in the middle of the night. One day she was there, the next she was gone. While everyone else cried and planned the funeral, he was absolutely emotionless. After about 6 months, out of the blue, he broke down and cried for a day or two, and then it was done. He had no control over his reaction and he had to ride it out.
The point is what is normal? Killing is wrong, adultery is wrong (for both sides, not just the married partner). These are accepted as fact, and they are my opinions, but not everyone has the same set of values in the same strengths, as evidenced by the varied replies in this thread.
It’s normal to cry and grieve (at least that’s what they tell us), but everyone deals with tragedy in their own fashion. Maybe this woman is in shock, maybe she really doesn’t care, but we don’t know. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not defending her at all, I just think that we put too much of our money on what is written about people and that we will never really know exactly what happened.
I agree with Alice. What does posting on Christmas day have anything to do with anything? What a ridiculous comment. I also disagree with Dogs other statment “There are ways to harm your fellow man and leaving him suffering all his life that are every bit as cruel as murder.” I’m pretty sure having your life snuffed out by a jealous husband trumps anything else you’re suggesting, especially adultry. There are only ways to harm your fellow man if said mans allows himself to be harmed. (including adultry, physical & emotional abuse, etc) As soon as he found out his wife was cheating on him, he should have walked away like a man and divorced her. He would have gotten custody of his kids AND would still be alive today.
Seems alot of comments being made about this topic involve people that have no clue what it’s like to be cheated on or even have cheated themselves. I’ve been in a few relationships where the woman cheated on me but I didn’t feel the urge to kill the man. I may have initially wanted to kick his @ss at the time, but it’s easier to walk away from the issue and the relationship with your sanity and your honor intact. Sure it hurts but that’s life. You learn to deal with it and move on thus becoming a stronger person because of it IMO. Like Alice said, “we will never really know exactly what happened”. I agree, and there’s no sense in speculating let alone casting judgement on any of the people involved. None of us are perfect and nobody deserves to die because they committed adultry.
CR-67
Most people (including you) who are cheated on don’t get lured into a face to face confrontation with a violent Scumbag Felon…
Alice,
it’s really time to exit Wonderland… What your comparing is apples and oranges….Someone’s mom dyeing peacefully in her sleep can in no way be compared to this case… Anyone with common sense can observe how bizarre and despicable Jennifer’s actions were… Instead of grieving somewhere in private, she was out trying to drum up a pity party for herself in an interview one day after the tragic event! She showed an obvious LACK OF REMORSE which is the signature trait of a SOCIOPATH ..
Hey CR.67, About time you came up with an alias. The elusive “Guest” and “Anonymous” was becoming hard to keep track of.
Nice sentiment, but “choosing your emotions” in a situation like that is a tad unrealistic. We’re all very proud of you for your high and mighty reaction to being cheated on, but did your girlfriend call up her thuggish ex-con lover who she met at the gym to put you in your place? Mr. Matthias’s situation was worse than the average scenario for so many reasons that I can’t even begin to list them all, but post #46 is a good place to start.
Anonymous, I don’t know about you, but when I’m in a relationship with someone I love, I have no desire to betray them. Good looks really aren’t “tempting” to me. If someone has the desire to cheat in a relationship, then it’s time to take a step back and figure out what’s wrong with the relationship.
Sounds like you know exactly what happened Cheyera.
Again, you shouldn’t go around speculating as to what MAY have happened or thinking you know the true feelings of each party without really knowing anything. You don’t know anymore than the rest of us, other than what you’ve heard from the media and from other people speculating just like you on the internet. The point of this whole tradegy is, Keith should have walked away and two people would be alive today. The issue isn’t whether or not Jennifer is a whore or whether she was abusive towards her husband. Her morals or lack thereof have nothing to do with anything. Keith made a decision to end this mans life and then take his own, period. It wasn’t temporary insanity, it was temporary stupidity. Again, it doesn’t matter whether Jennifer was a local prostitue selling her wares in a back alley somewhere or whether she was a church going choir girl, her husband chose to kill another man, end of story.
Sorry to dissapoint you student, but I haven’t been on this site for months until recently. Now I remember why.
I can’t believe how judgemental ppl in Idaho Falls are. None of us know what went on or how long the affair went on or if Keith knew about it or not. Doesn’t matter, you and I don’t have to live with the burden of that night. We didn’t live in their lives and there are no excuses for any of it. Just like there are no excuses for why you all have to judge each parties involved. What they all did in their private time was their business. It is time to let it all be laid to rest I am sure we all have better things to do in our lives than sit and gossip and continue on with this is what I heard or this is what she said, none of us were there, the only ones that know are the three involved and the one above.
nice sockpuppeting going on Student. (or should I call you Cheyerra? or wait….wow, too many names to choose from.) incredible.
CR-67,
I agree with you, it doesn’t matter if Jennifer was just a whore and a prostitute selling her (magical healing) body to the violent felon in the backseat of her hummer or if she was just giving it away, but what DOES matter is that she is a UNREMORSEFUL SOCIOPATH spewing her self-justifications and throwing a public pity party for herself in an interview the day after the tragedy….
AmominIF,
I agree with you too, none of us did know how long the skanky affair went on until Miss Magic Fingers threw a public pity party for herself in an interview and her transparent lies and manipulations were printed for everyone to read for themselves….
CR67, Maybe you should try sticking to the topic and having an actual discussion instead of firing back with a snarky one-liner. I don’t know why you bother pretending that you aren’t agreeing with yourself when we’ve all memorized your story by now of how you’ve been cheated on but you didn’t kill anyone over it. And how Jennifer is a “little loony” but at least she didn’t murder anyone. My arguments stand for themselves and I find no satisfaction from agreeing with myself. If you can’t tell the difference between me and Cheyerra or anyone else on this board then you haven’t been paying attention.
That aside, we can “speculate” based on Jennifer’s Post Register interview. Any normal person wouldn’t be in the proper mental and emotional state of mind to slander the father of their children right after he and her ex-con lover died. Nobody “judged” Jennifer until they read the interview. Sure, I thought it was strange that she showed no emotional response on the news broadcast, but I just thought she was ditzy at first. I didn’t start despising her until she attempted to justify herself by saying that Mr. Matthias was “angry,” “depressed,” “not a happy person,” and, most importantly, “filing for anti-depressants.” (As if that justifies her affair somehow? No wonder he was depressed.) Not to mention her affair that was “no secret.” I wonder what her kids think of that.
I agree that Mr. Matthias shouldn’t have murdered the thug, but he wasn’t the cause of this. Jennifer set this up to happen by having an affair first of all and then creating the conflict between Mr. Matthias and the ex-con. There’s no “speculation” required to reach the conclusion that something is wrong with her.
Hey student, if you can’t tell the difference between me and CR67 you haven’t been paying attention.
And do you guys realize your judging Jennifer based on an interview in the Post Register which is the same Post register that falsely reported that this was the first murder in Idaho Falls in several years? So do you really want to a put a lot of stock in the accuracy of the interview, especially concerning the context. For all we know Jennifer gave a rambling, crying, incoherent mess of an interview and the reporter cleaned it up and spruced it make it sound the way the reporter wanted to. It wouldn’t be the first time they majorly screwed up on reporting this case. Show me a television interview and then we’ll talk but only a fool trusts what they read in a paper since the only context and emotions you see are the ones the writer chooses to put in there.
And by the way student, the Post Register article you all talk about came out on Dec 22nd. Try reading many of the comments posted on Dec 21st and then tell me people weren’t judging her already.
It seems really strange that CR67 suddenly disappeared and Guest miraculously reappeared with the exact same writing style and tone as CR67. I don’t understand what kind of satisfaction a person could have from agreeing with himself, but I guess that’s beside the point.
Of course people are going to “judge” Jennifer for having an affair since that is what caused everything to happen, but most people didn’t have much of an opinion of her until the interview. Read the things she’s saying and it doesn’t sound like anything that a grieving person would say. She sounds bitter about Mr. Matthias and almost as if she’s glad that her issue took care of itself. After the scene that she witnessed, most people wouldn’t be in the right state of mind to answer any questions at all. A normal person would be too busy grieving or comforting her children to answer any interview. Also, don’t you think if she was blubbering and crying during the interview, the writer would have mentioned that? For example, “”I suddenly remembered that Keith had a lot of guns,” Jennifer said tearfully,” or something to that affect. Coupled with the blank reaction that we saw on the news, it seems to me that she wasn’t very emotional about it at all.
CR – good to see you back stranger!
Whether anyone judged before or after the Post Register article, or not at all, how could you not read the following and know her head was in a pretty strange place?
From the article:
“During their lunch break on the day of the shootings, Jennifer and Keith Matthias met at their home in Idaho Falls and discussed their marriage. They agreed to separate and see other people, she said. It was then that Jennifer Matthias told her husband about her relationship with Purcell, she said.
“Everybody knew the story,” she said. “Nobody was kept in the dark. There was no secret affair.”
At the time, Keith Matthias seemed to accept the agreement, she said. They agreed to meet at their home for dinner that night, after which she planned to visit Purcell to ask him whether he wanted to continue as a part of her life as a single mother of three. Keith Matthias did not object to the meeting, she said.
After dinner, Jennifer Matthias said she went to visit Purcell to discuss their future together. As she drove away from their home, she noticed her husband’s white Mazda following her Hummer with its headlights turned off.” ….
Well, someone must have tipped her off about Facebook b/c her info and photo have all but disappeared to anyone but friends. I can’t imagine the kids are going to be comfortable when school resumes but hopefully their peers are kind and sensitive.
Many people who get cheated on find out when they catch their spouse in bed with another person. Thats a far more volatile situation than what happened with Keith when he met his wife’s lovers many hours after finding out about him yet most of the time the former situation does not turn into a murder / suicide.
Guest aka CR67 aka Jennifer Matthias aka Santa Clause aka God (Believe it or not student two people can have similar opinions and not be the same person)
Hey Guest,
It’s obvious you’re not Santa Clause, he is way to busy giving gifts to all the good little children while you’re on here using a whole variety of user names to defend the Skank with the magical fingers…. as for anyone thinking you’re God, He’s way to busy forgiving skanks like Jennifer than to be on here with keeping up with your many aliases.
You have posted on this messageboard as “Anonymous, CR-67, Guest, Note and Lightbulb…What is wrong with your Warped EGO that you have to actually agree with yourself? Or is it that you hoping to be the next lucky one in the back seat of the hummer with Miss Magic Fingers? You are almost as pathetic as the sociopathic skank you keep trying to defend… Oh and as for me and “Student of Mr. Matthias” being the same writer according to you…Thanks for the compliment, “Student of Mr. Matthias” kicks you’re proverbial @ss everytime…
Guest, This will be my last correspondence with you because I have no intention of being sucked into a tit for tat match, but I’d like to say that first of all, many situations like you described DO end in murder/suicide and I disagree that catching a spouse in bed with their lover is more volatile than what happened to Mr. Matthias. Walking in on a spouse and their lover might be more shocking and disturbing, but Jennifer caused the situation to be volatile by calling up the felon in order to provoke a conflict with Mr. Matthias. Mr. Matthias overreacted for sure, but he didn’t cause any of this and his reaction is understandable at least.
I’m not interested in grasping for the last word but in defending Mr. Matthias, who was a very calm and dependable person. We can’t judge him by his final moments that were completely uncharacteristic due to the shock of what his sociopathic wife did to him. For someone who seems to be so keen on not being judgmental, maybe you should stop pointing fingers at everyone else and practice what you preach.
R.I.P. Mr. Matthias
An early post by anonymous is me but the rest are not. Someone else started posting as anonymous so I switched to guest. Beyond that I’m just me. It just shows how weak your arguments are that you think everyone who disagrees with you must be one person.
#4 is me. #19, also by anonymous, is not. Nor is #22 or #36 (by someone called guest, guess I should have picked a different handle). Nor is #40. #41 is the first by me as Guest.
Noticing now that there is someone else posting as Guest (its obvious we aren’t the same since we are taking opposite sides but I wouldn’t expect you guys to look that deep) I’m adding the 13 to the end of my name.
Most new people to the site post as guest or anonymous until they figure out how confusing it is – and often pick a name from there.
Is it safe to say we’re beating a dead horse at this point?
Maybe a new spin…is she going to return to the classroom next week? I was out today and saw scores of pre-teens shopping and hanging out. It dawned on me, she probably has a class of roughly 25 11-12 year olds. Unless they spent Christmas on Mars, they’ve all heard what happened. Some parents will be brutally honest and provide every detail along with their own biases to their child. Others will gloss over and give the watered-down play by play. No doubt, the kids who know every detail will fill in those who don’t.
My thoughts are – can her class accept her back? Will they? Will the powers that be take their needs into consideration? Are parents pulling their kids out if she returns? I don’t have a 12 year old, but can a child effectively learn from a teacher whom they know has been involved in the activities as reported? I read the paper daily starting at age 11, so I can imagine many have read her interview.
What about upcoming 5th graders? I’d love to hear some thoughts from those of you with kids this age. Could you and your child accept or not accept her being the teacher the rest of the year and why?
Hi Reader,
it is certainly true that many people do chose to use Guest or Anonymous, when they first start to post and I never did say that he was every single “guest” or “anonymous” posting on this messageboard, but my point was that this particular poster is deliberately changing his name in order to agree with himself. He also choses several user names (lightbulb, note, cr-67) before he settles on “Guest 13″. But “Student” is right, it’s a waste of time to play tit for tat with his EGO.
Honesty is the best policy with the kids who are (unfortunalely) in her class, and if I were the parent of one of those (unfortunate) kids I probably would demand a transfer to a different classroom just on the grounds of her bizarre comments about having magical healing powers in her fingers. The tragedy she caused and feels no remorse about would just seal the deal.
Thanks Reader! I see not much has changed.
Again student, sorry to dissapoint you but I’m not Guest. What I find amusing is you accusing ME of sock puppeting when you’re the one who’s actually doing it. Guilty conscious I guess. This topic would be half the size comment wise but we’ve got at least 3 people sock puppeting with Cherrya/Student being one of them.
Back to the topic at hand. I gave me opinion and that’s all I’ve got to say.
Cheyerra – I think you can rule CR67 out on your list, he’s been around here longer than me and IMO wouldn’t have a reason to sock puppet on this topic anyway. I don’t think student of Mr. M and Cheyerra are the same either, different writing style.
Besides, who cares – everyone speak your own opinion! If you need to agree with yourself, I’ll have my kids come whack you on the back and tell you “good job”. Then you can watch Spongebob.
It’s really curious why Mr. Matthias’ obituary wasn’t printed but Purcell’s was. The funeral was Saturday but sure was kept hush-hush. Maybe there were some strange magic finger ceremonies going on….
CR-67,
The only one on this site who should have a guilty conscience regarding this case is Miss Magic Fingers herself. In fact that is exactly why we are all here, we still can’t believe the slanderous lies, the manipulations and the self justifications she spewed out in her interview…We still can’t believe her LACK OF REMORSE .. Sociopaths come from all walks of life. Some are male, some are female. Some are ugly, some are attractive and some even have cheesy fake smiles that make them look like they are wearing some kind of a bizarre happy face mask . (Note the facebook profile photo of Jennifer). What they DO have in common is the traits that Jennifer has presented which include a lack of remorse, sexual promiscuity, pathological lies, self-justifications, indifference to the pain she caused , shallow affect etc.
If people can learn to recognize the traits of a sociopath from this case, then that will be the only silver lining….
Now like I told Reader, it is a total waste of my time to deal with you and your warped EGO… Oh and as for “sock-puppet” that’s a joke…the only puppet on here is the one who is thinking that he may now have a chance with Miss Magic Fingers with those other two out of the way…
Idaho Falls people ARE judgemental because most are mormon!! Sorry, just had to put it out there
Should we add another choice to the poll and blame the Mormons for it?
Annoyed,
What does someone’s religon have to do with being able to recognize a sociopath like Jennifer for what she is? Her own words speak volumes in the interview which she so graciously granted a day after the deaths of the two men she was sleeping with . In that interview her words sound like the the words of a remorseless, lying, self-justifying, manipulative excuse for a human .
Oh and if you think it’s just a local “Mormon judgemental attitude” in regards to Miss Magic Fingers, then you need
to check out this link below. Most of the posters aren’t locals yet they can see right through her… http://f2bbs.com/bbs/show_topic/159320
Just thought I’d put it out there…
Perhaps Mr. Matthias’ obituary was printed in a Florida paper, maybe his home town paper where his family still lives. The way his adulterous wife, Jennifer, disparages the man it’s not surprising she refused to take the time to compose, submit and honor her late husband with an obituary. Besides, she had an interview with ‘The Post Register.’ First things, first!
Hopefully the funeral of her husband and boyfriend weren’t on the same day. Who could expect a woman to publicly display so much emotion all at once? Talk about strenous demands. WHEW!
Being an optimist, I’m believing she didn’t drag her husband’s children to her lovers funeral; but you never know. The woman just ain’t right. She probably tried to guilt them into accompanying her to his funeral by saying she needed their support during that so stressful time in her life. Selfish, long-term unbalanced people are like that: Always attempting to drag others into their illness.
So I’ve changed my mind, regarding her return to teaching: NO FLIPPING WAY! Children, even young adults should not be exposed to that thought disordered, self possesed woman. Let her be a greeter at Wal-mart (in Flori-duh).
Annoyed @ 12:15 am, “most people are judgemental” simply because they are raised to be judgemental: Of their own behaviors and those of others, in all situations; and it doesn’t matter where they live.
I’m not a mormon but I still believe Jennifer Matthias is a messed up human being that destroyed two men’s lives and significantly harmed her three children’s lives. She’s bad news, a woman that obviously makes and carries out bad decisions. That’s not someone any parent wants teaching their child.
This morning Channel 3’s news reported that Jennifer dropped her 7 cats off at the Animal Shelter the other day and said she could no longer take care of them.
Didn’t see that 550, but today’s Post Register lists Purcell’s service today at 3PM and further down a memorial service for Keith Matthias Jan 6th at 4PM at the LDS Chapel on 12th and Woodruff. So, they must have done a private family funeral the 26th and will do a memorial service in January.
Lord, if I was his wife I’m not sure I could face scores of people at such an event. To each his own, I guess.
Reader,
If you were his wife you probably wouldn’t have given that despicable interview in the paper either… However, if you were his wife, you probably would attend his funeral… What a wonderful opportunity to wallow in sympathy and attention while secretly scanning the crowd for a new “love interest”… Once again, she’ll be killing two birds with one stone….
That’s true, I would have never interviewed with the press, especially less than 72 hours after the shooting. Such poor taste. An interview like that is expected from a white trash woman without any morals, not a Master’s level educator and mother fresh from multiple deaths and children to protect.
I bet Sven Berg of the PR didn’t realize what would become of his interview – since it was an AP article, I’ve seen it posted all over the northwest in numerous papers, as well as comments from those of us outside Idaho. Perhaps it was meant to be a simple understanding of what happened, but I bet Berg and Matthias had no idea it would reveal a side of the story which has now caused so much scorn and disdain for her.
This case is surely fascinating, from a million angles.
She dropped off her cats at the animal shelter? Another bizarre move from Jennifer! Is that supposed to make us feel sorry for her? I just can’t relate. I love my pets like a part of my family and I can’t imagine dropping them off like that no matter what happened. I’d temporarily leave them off with a family member, at least. Seems to me like she’s preparing to leave the state. Good riddance.
That shows how cold of a heart she has
It’s odd, I don’t see a thing about the shelter/cats issue on their website. Are you absolutely sure that’s what they reported? If it is true, I can’t believe channel 3 is hanging out at the pound. Does that mean an employee tipped them off? This is all I see on channel 3 regarding animal issues and her name is not mentioned: http://www.kidk.com/news/local/80248502.html
I stand by what I said I saw on channel 3. It was this morning between 6 and 7 a.m. At the end of the video story about people not being able to afford their pets, the news person said that even a local murder/suicide story had a connection to this story and that Jennifer Matthias had taken her 7 cats to the shelter. I can’t remember if they said it was on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day but I think it was one or the other.
Wow, pretty cold. They must have been his cats…
That’s sure a lot of poo to clean up.
I also seen it this morning on the news – I can’t remember if it was on 3 or one of the other news channels – but I did see it too!
Channel 6 reported it on their 6 oclock broadcast this evening. Regardless of who the cats belonged to, why do people keep so many animals to begin with? They’re reported to be spade and neutered so obviously they’ve had these cats for awhile, but really…..6 cats?? Why the heck would anyone want that many cats? Oh well….different strokes for different folks I guess.
Look at all the other personality disorders being discussed in this thread. Cat hoarding isn’t so bad.
LOL this is true!
As for the fate of the poor cats, Miss Magic Fingers had no more use for them … This is known as the “D and D” or the “devalue and discard”…. it’s the classic move for a sociopath when they are all done using someone ….
She’s more strange than a duck with moccasins wearing love beads, but, well toned butt, she’s not an anti-social/sociopath.
That personality type is well established by their early teens and doesn’t give away their pets, they kill their cats. They are unable to establish normal relationships with family, friends and co-workers. Jennifer Matthias had a difficult relationship that finally ended with her husband, but as far as anyone knows she had successful relationships with everyone else for many years. She especially had a succesful relationship with Jack Purcell, for at least two weeks.
What would make a successful, responsible woman so radically alter her behaviors?
Have an affair with a convicted criminal. Tell her husband of 20 or some years that she wanted a divorce. Tempt the two men into a confrontation resulting in the end of both their lives. Surrendering the six family cats. All thoughtless behaviours. All so unlike Jennifer Matthias.
What had gotten into her?
Bipolar disorder: Which affects persons, typically, in their thirties, but not uncommonly in their early fourties. Mrs. Matthias is 41, and has been acting out for several years; especially the last couple of months.
Too bad for Keith Matthias, the Matthias children, and Jennifer’s boyfriend that she didn’t see a shrink, get on a mood stabilizer and an anti-depressant then, pet her cats.
Wendy – Good post, I was going to type up something about the sociopath label not fitting her at all but you beat me to it. There are a few similarities but all in all, it wasn’t the right label. It sounds like Jennifer Matthias was headed for an explosion in her personal life and she chose to handle it by having an affair, tell her husband, and here we are today…. sounds to me like serious marital dissatisfaction with decisions to be dishonest and spiteful rather than ending it and protecting your children from as much harm as you can, as a mother and woman should do.
Nope, I wouldn’t let my kid continue in her class by a long shot.
What’s scary is how many other professionals we trust with our kids who are falling apart outside of work, ie mental health problems, relationship issues, etc. Some can keep it going, but it usually affects their work performance.
I know of two other teachers right now who are having an affair. He’s married, she’s divorced, no one in the school has a clue. I can only imagine what the two women would do to each other if he set up a confrontation b/w the two, especially where it’s been going on for 2+ years. My advice of getting a divorce seems to fall on his deaf ears….
According to DR Robert Hare, PHD who developed the Sociopathy Checklist, the following is the definition of a sociopath, …
Interpersonal Traits
• Glib and superficial
• Egocentric and grandiose
• Lack of remorse or guilt
• Lack of empathy
• Deceitful and manipulative
• Shallow emotions
Antisocial lifestyle
• Impulsive
• Poor behavior controls
• Need for excitement
• Lack of responsibility
• Early behavior problems
• Adult antisocial behavior
while it’s unknown whether or not Jennifer has every, single trait or lifestyle on DR, Hare’s list, she has at least 90% of them… Definate cause for alarm….
I didn’t know Jennifer personally, but Dr. Hare’s list sounds like it fits her more than bipolar disorder. I know someone with bipolar disorder who would never abandon her pets or claim that she has magical healing powers, even on an “upswing.” To me, the biggest sign of sociopathy is the infamous Post Register interview. Jennifer was slandering Mr. Matthias before the dust even settled and had the nerve to try to justify her behavior. That’s another sociopathic trait that isn’t listed there — they can justify anything.
I also thought it sounded like a stretch at first to label her as a sociopath because I’ve always thought of sociopaths as serial killers like Charlie Manson. But when I learned about all the traits of a sociopath, I was shocked to discover that they aren’t necessarily serial killers (in fact most of them aren’t), but the types of people who could JUSTIFY their own odious behavior. (Which is why many of them do become serial killers, cult leaders, whatever.) There are actually more of them among us than I ever believed before — I think the official percentage is 4%, but that only pertains to DIAGNOSED sociopaths — and sociopathy is very hard to diagnose, so there are even more than that. So, chances are that everyone has met AT LEAST one, probably more.
I had a job interview w/the school district and they went on and on about confidentiality. The principal at Jennifer’s school told some people that Jennifer didn’t want to pay for her husband’s funeral – she thought the city should. She did, however, gladly pay for Jack’s. Jennifer apparently would “work out” at the Apple every day for hours, from about 4 until 8 p.m. What a dedicated mother. Another kick in the teeth for the kids, let’s get rid of the 7 cats, let the city deal with it now. I wonder if she already cleaned out and got rid of her husband’s belongings.
Oh, come on, that’s all more than just a little hard to believe. The principal isn’t going to go around gossiping about what funerals widow Matthias does and doesn’t want to pay for. Being a couple hundred thousand dollars in debt, having three kids to support, and having no job, chances are she’s not going to go pay for a guy’s funeral she’d only dated for two weeks. Doesn’t matter who she might think should be responsible for her husband’s funeral/burial, she’s his wife and she gets billed.
Still, as erratically as she’s been behaving it wouldn’t be surprising to see her try to get out of owing the money. The only way she can do that is by filing bankruptcy. Even then she’ll be unable to hold on to her home unless she can continue to make house payments; which will be pretty difficult without a job.
As bad as things are for Jennifer Matthias they will only get worse. Unfortunately, those grave conditions involve her children.
I’m honored, my only posting ever and wendyjo pipes in (and after 1:00 a.m.) – must be busy on this and Hall’s website. I didn’t say the city paid for it. The principal has been by Jennifer’s side and is telling people things Jennifer has said (some “friend”). Jennifer didn’t want to pay for her husband’s funeral, she thought the city should, she did pay for Jack’s because Jack’s mother couldn’t afford it. She paid for both. Per the principal, who also said she just hopes Jennifer moves away. Principal/friend has been very, very busy.
Comment edited by moderator. (please stay on topic and refrain from calling names)
Is it a crime for members of the same family to post their opinions on a topic? I didn’t know that it’s against the rules to use the same Internet router. Is each member of the family supposed to get their own now?
Hey “Moderator”,
take a look at post # 167…This poster ADMITS to using several different names… Ofcourse he convientanly forgets to list all his other posts and aliases… Must be scary for him to see how transparent he is to others…
cheyerra wrote:
“Hey “Moderator”, take a look at post # 167…This poster ADMITS to using several different names…”
This is the INTERNET. A Person can state anything, but readers rarely know if the statements are true.
You wrote:
“Of course he convientanly forgets to list all his other posts and aliases…”
Again. Is the claim true? Or false?
More importantly — who cares?
You wrote:
“Must be scary for him to see how transparent he is to others…”
As an anonymous person posting inane statements on the Internet, it is unlikely the writer feels things are scary.
I agree, his posts were inane, and I also agree with the “who cares” statement as to how often he psuedo-posts.. I don’t have time to psycho-analyze a person’s motives for psuedo-posting, that would be best left up to a shrink….
My purpose on this site was to share my opinion and I was only motivated to do so after I read the bizarre and slanderous post register interview. Then the subject turned to possible “mental disorders” and many posters gave their opinions. There are resources available to eveyone with internet access to educate themselves about sociopathy and all of the other mental disorders discussed. Knowledge is Power… Peace out….
Ruh Roh.
Cheyerra must have gotten busted sock puppetting which is why I’m being called out now.
I gave full disclosure on which ID’s are mine but your whining because you got busted and are in denial.
ROFL
Anyone feel like getting back on topic? If the principal is gossiping, it’s totally unethical. I’m sure the Super. will put a cork in it. If the rumor is true about funeral payment, how low can a woman go?
Based on all the comments here and around town, Jennifer would do everyone a favor by leaving town. Maybe Daren Palmer is looking for a new woman….
Ok sort of off topic but has anyone noticed but me that IFHS is sooo lazy that they have yet to take this poor man’s picture and email address down from their website?? The district can spend thousands of $$$$ to try to pass their bond and they can even spend thousands of $$$$ to try to put independent counselor out of business because she does a damn good job compared to their useless counselors but they can’t spend $15.00 to take Keith’s info down??
Why should IFHS take his photo down? Chances are his students want to remember him. Doesn’t matter whether or not they take his email address down. It’s not like anyone sending him an email is going to get a response.
No, “anyone?,” the principal isn’t gossiping, you and we are gossiping. The principal hasn’t told us crap.
Grab hold of your own throat when trying to choke the offender.
Disgusted, you wrote:
“The principal at Jennifer’s school told some people that Jennifer didn’t want to pay for her husband’s funeral – she thought the city should. She did, however, gladly pay for Jack’s.”
Disgusted — while it is Possible your statements are true, they — and you — lack credibility.
Again, anyone can post anything on the Internet. However, as YOU wrote — “Some People” were “told” about Jennifer’s payment plans.
Thus YOU are repeating rumors, and, as always happens in the game of repeating rumors, small changes work their way into the original statements.
Disgusted, you wrote:
“The principal has been by Jennifer’s side and is telling people things Jennifer has said (some “friend”).”
What things? Where, when and why? How many iterations have the principal’s statements endured?
You wrote:
“Jennifer didn’t want to pay for her husband’s funeral…”
Meaning what? She refused to buy him a casket? A burial plot? Or arrange a funeral service? Was he cremated? That’s cheap. Moreover, she will receive a payout as the beneficiary of his life insurance. Or perhaps the kids were the beneficiaries. Either way, she will have access to the proceeds. Thus, the costs of his final exit are not coming out of her pocket.
You wrote:
“…she thought the city should, she did pay for Jack’s because Jack’s mother couldn’t afford it.”
Again, what exactly was she supposedly paying for?
Meanwhile, since Jennifer’s bad decisions led to Jack’s death, it seems likely Jack’s mother might now feel some dislike for her. On the other hand, if Jack’s mother is impoverished, as you suggest, perhaps her financial condition is the result of many bad decisions of her own. As “they” say, Men are What Their Mother’s Make Them. Did he learn from her example?
As a person who seems to have had criminal inclinations, Jack is unlikely to have owned a burial plot. Yet another candidate for cremation. And again, a “funeral” is merely a ceremony that is optional.
You wrote:
“She paid for both. Per the principal, who also said she just hopes Jennifer moves away.”
Where’s the proof she paid? Jennifer — an untrustworthy person — can say anything to the principal, or anyone else she talks to. Even if she says nothing, people will put words in her mouth.
Meanwhile, Jennifer’s husband accrued many years of pension benefits and probably had some retirement money in a 403-b program. Jennifer is the most likely beneficiary of those funds and it is likely the principal knows about this money.
The amount coming her way is probably too little to make her the Merry Widow, but it is likely enough to make a big difference in her financial picture.
Are they ever going to post an obituarie for Keith or hold a funeral for him?
Tisk tisk, Wendy Jo I suspect that you are one of the District 91 Board members because your post about a “remembrance” is ludicrous.
If the students want to remember Keith it should be in the way of a memorial at the school grounds or maybe on Facebook. Leaving a dead man’s info on a school website as if he is “still” a “living” employee is bad form and in very poor taste. I suggest some light reading in the manners isle of Barnes and Nobel.
IFHS get off your thumbs and take care of BUSINESS.
This story is a tragedy. A husband, friend, teacher, and father is dead because he was so hurt by his wife bad decisons. I don’t judge either person, but I think the main thing here is when you get married it is a contract to love one another and be friends. Jennifer is wrong in having an affair, she should of separated from his spouse first. And her decisons affect her children lives no matter what man she ended up with. I feel bad she didn’t even post an obituary of her husband. That is disrespectful. She mentioned her lover as being the hero. I don’t think so. I cannot believe this person is a teacher. I know she will go on, and her husband and lover are dead as a result of her bad decisions. I pity her.
Oh yay. Another post that takes all the responsibility away from the guy who actually pulled the trigger. You know the guy who didn’t love his kids very much seeing as how he would rather have them live with the woman who cheated on him and have them live with the guilt that all kids feel whose parent commits suicide. You know the guy who was such a coward that rather than face the consquences of his actions killed himself.
Jennifer may be a slut. She also made some horrible decisions and certainly sounds like a whacko. Yet Keith felt his kids were better with her and without him in their life. Millions of people each year find out their spouse has cheated on them, many in much more shocking ways than Keith did, and they don’t kill anyone over it.
Some hero many of you are defending.
The one thing that bothers me about this whole article is the fact that whom ever wrote this brought up Jacks history. What does the fact that he was convicted of theft have ANYTHING to do with the situation between him and the wife or the fact that he was shot? I know people that were very good freinds with Jack and have always described him as a great guy. I think there was some biass going on in the writing of the article and it needs to be realized.
I think the whole situation is a mess but who is to blame??? Well even though what Jack and Jennifer did was wrong, it did not give the husband the right to take a life PERIOD!!!. I do believe that Jennifer should have done the right thing and sought out a divorce first before starting a relationship with someone else, and in that respect she is undeniably in the wrong. As for Jack, I don’t know if he knew she was married from the beginning, or until later on in the relationship, but he should have broken it off with her the moment he found out. In that respect he was in the wrong. As for the husband, I can only imagine the hurt he was going through. When something like that happens, it is understandable that he would be enraged, I would be too…however…no matter how angry you are, you have to be able to control yourself and not go overboard. There have been many husbands/wives in similar situations that have been enraged but have never crossed that line into murder. While he was following her, the husband new what he wanted to do, and instead of realizing that this was a bad idea and going home, he fullfilled the plan. People forget that killing someone is NEVER worth it…the same with killing yourself.
Thank God there are still people with common sense right on the money to posts 211 and 212!!!!
What are you talking about? Post 211 more or less blames Jennifer and Post 212 blames Keith! How can you agree with both of them?
This story made http://detentionslip.org ! Check it out for all the crazy headlines from our schools.
I mis spoke the articles that I was agreeing with are 213 and 212. I was speaking about the 2 directly above me another post was posted before I got mine on there but thank you for bringing this to my attention.
I like the fact that the crime are being blamed on the appropriate person. I know that morally people do not act as they should. I encounter this everyday….. but murder is murder and Jennifer did not do anything close to muder she did do something morally wrong. She took away from her learning and is teaching a wrong message to those that look up to her for advice and learning. It is sad that someone took away from this world and was judge and jury. Keith is/was not God and truly God is the only true entity that should make that decision. We as humans make other decisions everyday and bad or good we live and learn our lessons from those decisions. Keith took lives though and no matter what the argument is there is no excuse or justification for murder.
It appears most here agree that all three involved were in the wrong. but the debate is over who was the MOST wrong. Murder seems to be the absolute in wrong, and said that there is never a good reason for it. Whatever Jack and Jen did is trumped by Kieths wrong. A person has no right to murder. But a person has every right to commit adultry. Every right to betray and provoke. Its okay to hurt a persons spirit and damage a heart. People point to the fact that they know people who were cheated on and they didnt kill. So Keith is not right. Im sure that through history many have killed for betrayal. So if I know someone who did, is it right now? Point is, who cares how many people you know that didnt kill in similar situations. Keith was pushed to kill. How do we know? Because he did it. Right or wrong is interesting. Where is the scale of, sort of wrong, wrong, and super wrong? Whos more responsible, the one who set a chain of events in motion, or the one at the end of the toppling dominos? “But murder is murder, PERIOD!” that could be debated. People have killed forever. “to fear death is to think ourselves wise wthout really being wise, for no man knows but that death may be the greatest good that can happen to man” something like that. Would we cheer the man who shoots the burglar,or rapist or child molester? Or the soldier who kills the ememy? Is defense of the physical all that makes murder okay for you? When a man is dead inside, he has nothing to live for and nothing to loose. Kieth was probably damaged prior to this and was finished off that night. Right or wrong is not relevant. because right or wrong, things happen anyway. We as humans are all broken, some more than others. I dont judge Kieth. Im just glad I wasnt him. All three people here are reaping what they sowed. Whine and boob all you want but when bad things are set in motion they end badly for all. This event will ripple through time. and It could have all been avoided if the first domino was never toppled by Jennifer. And now she remains.
Very true post “dog” I agree with you. Taking another persons life is taking someones lessons away that they are supposed to learn. Your interfering with destiny. I also believe that this man “Keith” was not the devil incarnate but to me this story is personal because people that I dearly love knew and loved Jack. It is a bit different when people that you know are involved. You never want to see the people that you care about hurt. People justify and make excuses for people even when you know it is wrong. There is no good excuse for any involved. The only reason we know about the cheating is because the murder made this public knowledge. We all know people that cheat and involve themselves with others that are married. People whisper about them behind their backs, if they know, and make assumptions about the affairs. If everyone made cheating a top priority to end, we as a society, would not sweep this under the rug. This is not a priority for many Americans until something like this happens and throws the subject into many peeoples faces.
it is not possible to disrupt destiny. If you believe in destiny ( i dont) then by its definition it can not be avoided. Its detiny! That is why we should not do stupid things. because our destiny becomes out of control. Every small thing we do wrong piles up years upon years. Leading us towards ruin. None of the three involved would have ever dreamed this would be the way it would go. But it did. SUPRISE! your a killer, your dead, and your responsible for two deaths and damaged lives of some living. Perhaps Jacks destiny was to be shot down by the husband of his married lover. All the poor choices he made put him on paths he would have been better to avoid. Does this mean life is fair or unfair?. If Jack were asked in his youth, what could be the result of sleeping with another mans wife, and then confronting that man, Jack would admit death MAY result. He would not risk doing it. Not worth it. BUt he gambled and lost. Im not trying to be mean. Its reality. watch discovery chanel and observe the animal kingdon. Its not concerned with fair, or right only act and be acted on. We like to think we are more evolved than we are. Our morals and spirituality are what make us more than animals. Observing a moral code and diciplined lifestyle is all that can help us avoid the cruel justice of our animal natures. Jack Jen and Keith all jumped the track gave us something to think about. What paths are we wondering down? What would we do if given the chance? Whatever we foolishly choose, we will pay more than we think is fair, but our protests will get us nowhere.
Destiny but definition is “an event (or a course of events) that will inevitably happen in the future ” I believe that by choices we alter our destiny. Keith altered anothers destiny by disposing of it and thus made the desicion for Jack. I believe our book of life comes with a pencil not pen. Jack and Jennifer came to a place where they made the decision as adults do to indulge into a relationship and both knew that was not acceptable, or maybe it was not that bad to them.
Personally I think that infidelity is not one of the things that I would become a “killer” over. I would like to think I could control myself in any situation. Compared to some situations infidelity is so low on the totem that it is laughable. For instance if someone murdered one of my children or family members for nothing, molesting one of my children or family members, domestic abuse that resulted in death or hospitalization of one of my loved ones. Keith will not be there if/when one of his little ones are gonna need there dad. No one but him is responsible except him. I read somewhere that we live long enough to see our sins affect our family or children. Let me say it this way; if you were a bully in school there may be a good possibility that we will see one of our children or loved one deal with a bully at school. You cannot outrun “Karma.” What comes around goes around and when it comes back around it may not hit you it may be the ones that you love the most that are hit.
Student and others from the high school, I’m curious if any of you are going to the memorial service, how many other students are going, etc. If you do go, let us know here how it went.
Wow, didn’t think we’d see an obituary but here it is. The tone of each is certainly different.
Keith Edwin Matthias, 49, of Idaho Falls, died Friday, Dec. 18, 2009, in Idaho Falls.
He was born June 11, 1960, in Pittsburg, Pa., to Harry W. Matthias and Lois V. Pollock Matthias. He spent his early child- hood in Pennsylvania. Later his family moved to Ohio, where he attended high school and college. He graduated from Ohio State University with a bachelor’s degree in music education. He later received his certification in mathematics. He received a master’s degree from Nova Southeastern University in educational leadership. He married Jennifer A. Matthias in Florida in 1992.
Keith was musically talented. He played the clarinet, alto and soprano saxophone, piano and the flute. He loved to travel and enjoyed exploring places of interest across the United States with his family. A veteran teacher of many years, he enjoyed working with his students. He was a lifelong member of the Presbyterian Church.
Keith was a fan of the Pittsburg Steelers, he also loved bodybuilding and won second place in his weight class in a competition in Sarasota, Fla.
He is survived by his wife, Jennifer; children, Taylor E. Matthias, Jordan E. Matthias and Aubrey A. Matthias; his parents, Harry and Lois Matthias; a brother, Kenneth E. Matthias; a sister-in-law, Gina Matthias; a niece, Krista Matthias; a grand-nephew, Brendan Matthias; his mother-in-law, Therese Durfee; and several brothers-in-law, sisters-in-law, nieces and nephews.
Private family services were held Saturday, Dec. 26, 2009. Online condolences may be sent to the family at http://www.buckmillerhann.com.
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Jack Duane Purcell, 46, of Idaho Falls, died Friday, Dec. 18, 2009, in Idaho Falls.
Jack was born March 29, 1963, in Tucson, Ariz. Jack had worked for Johnson Brothers for the past two years, where he was loved and respected by all that knew him.
Jack lived in many places but considered Idaho Falls his true home. Jack faced many challenges and hardships during his life but was grateful for the opportunity he had been given for a new start. Jack never made excuses for his past decisions and accepted that he could only work on the present.
He was committed to caring for his personal well being and worked out at Apple Athletic Club every day, sometimes for hours at a time, or running in the park. He enjoyed the outdoors and all sports. Jack possessed a good heart and was willing to help anyone who was in need. He was a devoted employee with a positive attitude and encouraged those around him. Jack had an infectious smile and was cordial to all. He loved life and enjoyed being around all of his friends. He placed a high value on his friendships and will be sincerely missed.
Jack is survived by his mother, Nancy of Michigan; his sister, Terri Purcell of Las Vegas; and his many friends in Idaho Falls.
Memorial services will be at 3 p.m. Tuesday, Dec. 29, at Buck-Miller-Hann Funeral Home, 825 E. 17th St. in Idaho Falls, with pastor Bob Sherwood officiating. Online condolences for Jack may be left at www .buckmillerhann.com.
Did Jennifer Mathias return to teaching at Bush elementary this week or not?
This is for post 224
224 Guest January 5, 2010 at 6:50 pm
Did Jennifer Mathias return to teaching at Bush elementary this week or not? <———-I don't believe that is any of your bussiness.
If she’s a public employee, it is his or her business.
Wendy Jo if they have children in her classroom then sure it is. If not then it’s really none of their bussiness.
so long as other peoples children are put with a disturbed instructor who cares. nice attitude guest#######. You also turn up the radio when your neighbor is crying for help?
You’re incorrect, guest 8765309:
As long as the woman is hired and working for the County/State, her name and work record is open to the public who pay her salary.
If she doesn’t like that fact then, she better get a different job.
Exactly. So, is she teaching now?
In my mind Jennifer is nothing more than a selfish “Black Widow”! She has the nerve to slam her dead husband even before he is laid to rest. She blames him for their financial problems yet she drives a Hummer (8 m.p.g. but I’m sure she thinks she looks good in it). She brings up possible molestation or inappropriate behavior while teaching in Florida, which was never substantiated or he would not have been teaching for District 91. What a ………!
Seriously why do you people think driving a hummer has anything to do with financial problems? I have looked at many hummers on used lots and you can get then at a decent price, much less than a used Ford, Chevy, Toyota truck. She wasnt the only one driving a hummer.
And besides her personal life is really none of ANY or NO ONES bussiness. Well unless your some nosey pathetic $hit starter that likes to keep the crap going.
I dont know her and from what I hear about her teaching in a classsroom. I would have put my child in her class. Never would I put them in yours Reader, Reader 68, Dog, WendyJo reason why? Your very judgemental and dont realize that you are. Its not our place to judge oh but then again you guys are so godly your allowed to..Oh ok I will keep that in mind. lol
Guesttoomanynumbers, its laughable the level of hypocracy you exhibit.
Ok you all need to get a life or get back to your lives. Let me cut to the chase and then maybe we can stop posting on this link.
Jennifer is a SLUT by most intelligent people moral codes and now will be branded with a “scarlet letter” no matter where she runs. In today’s age it only takes one irritated neighbor to find whatever he/she needs to know in 10 minutes on the web…
Jennifer broke FOUR of the Ten Commandments – They are –
10. ‘Thou shall not covet your neighbor’s house; Thou shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.’
7. ‘Thou shall not commit adultery.’
1. ‘Thou shall have no other gods before Me.’ – Jennifer broke this TWICE because her God’s were her body and her power over her husband.
6. ‘Thou shall not murder.’ – Jennifer did this without regard to the outcome because her own words prove she had no love for either man. She used both to ultimately get her freedom. She killed twice just like her husband.
Remember people there is NOT a COMMANDMENT that say’s “Thou shall not judge.” It is just a verse in the bible.
Keith broke FOUR Commandments – They are
10. ‘Thou shall not covet your neighbor’s house; Thou shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.’
1. ‘Thou shall have no other gods before Me.’ – Jennifer was his God and he could not let her be what she actually was, A CHEATING LIAR.
6. ‘Thou shall not murder.’ – Keith murdered twice but maybe more because who knows what types of lives his children will now lead.
Jack Purcell broke THREE of the Commandments – They are
10. ‘Thou shall not covet your neighbor’s house; Thou shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.’
7. ‘Thou shall not commit adultery.’
1. ‘Thou shall have no other gods before Me.’ – Jennifer was his GOD too because when he found out she was married and on the prowl he should have summarily shown her the door to prove he was a better man.
Simply Jennifer got away with her life but I doubt it will be a life worth living.
Hope I made ALL of you mad… Now get back to work.
By the way guest, the correct number is 867-5309. Can we call you Jenny? Seems as if a little 6th grade review of spelling and English might help, maybe Mrs. Matthias might accept you into her classroom….
Seriously, I’m surprised Sven Berg hasn’t done a follow up to his original interview. Something like “Coping 1 month later” so we can read more self-serving comments.
Sorry my spell checker stops working at 8 pm but he rubs my feet on occasion.
I missed the line in heaven for English but I got a double helping of history including religions of the world.
Maybe my Hummer comments were off base but I don’t think so. Bottom line for me: She was/is an idiot for saying one word to the press that soon after an event like that. I don’t care about the Hummer’s “Blue Book” but I do know that driving daily from South I.F. to A.H. Bush in a Hummer is not cheap. The big thing for me is how she brought up sh*t that allegedly happened in Florida. He was never arrested, convicted, or fired! That is bogus and if you (Reader876) don’t agree, then you are an idiot also. For whatever reason, she made bad choices, let them compound into more bad choices where two deaths resulted.
I don’t care what anyone says, my own opinion is that ANYONE who drives a Hummer on a daily basis is materialistic and pretentious. But that’s just my opinion.
Reader, you refer to “867-5309” and “Jenny” in your post #235. As most of us know, this is from the song “Jenny” from the legendary band Tommy Tutone. The topic of this page is “Jennifer” and reader8765309 sure is defensive and supportive of her.
“Jenny, I got your number,
I need to make you mine.
Jenny, don’t change your number,
8-6-7-5-3-0-9 (8-6-7-5-3-0-9)
8-6-7-5-3-0-9 (8-6-7-5-3-0-9)”
“I got it, I got it, I got it!
I got your number on the wall!
I got it, I got it, I got it!
For a good time, for a good time call….”
Seems a little strange and there’s definitely no “good time” associated with any of this.
The only type of people that judge others for what model vehicle they drive are people that cant afford to drive one themselves. Are we all supposed to drive beaters or priuses? Grow the eff up!
As for Law’s comment, drop the holier than thou rant. I’m sure you’ve broken your share of commandments over the years.
C McGuilicutty yes we all have sinned (except Jesus) but the difference is we didn’t HELP KILL two or MORE people with our intended (not unintended) ACTIONS.
We all sin but honest people would not do what these three, (however the MAJORITY of people who have heard of this story agree that Jennifer is the most EVIL of all of them because she manipulated BOTH men) did. Most honest human beings would not have let this story play out as it did both in life and in the media.
C McGuilicutty/Jennifer or friend of Jennifer, how do you look at yourself EVERYDAY and not relive what happened??? That will be her punishment BEFORE she gets to the other side.
Just for the record, I have a friend that drives a hummer, and he is neither materialistic or pretentious, and I don’t envy his situation one bit.
I still can’t believe that so many people think that this woman had this whole situation under control. It’s good to know that there are so many people out there that can manage to keep everything in their lives under control at all times no matter what life throws at them… or at least they think they can.
Bad things happen, and sometimes people simply lose control due to a rapidly progressing series of unfortunate events.
And no, I don’t know this woman, and that’s why I choose not to condemn her just yet. I simply see her as someone who made a series of bad decisions, some in a frazzled hurry.
I love how the super religious in this town you know, the ones who like to quote the bible, are the ones who judge others the most. Talk about hypocritical.
Kangaroo court are you trying to make yourself look like an idiot? Ever heard of the pot calling the kettle black? Point a finger at someone and you have four pointing back at you? etc.
How do you define “super religious”? A person quotes the Bible and they are on your list. You lumped them into a catergory and you looked to be judged by them. You find what you look for and then you justify your judgements as a responce to thier percieved judgments on you. Then you have the nerve to call them hypocrits. The thing we hate in others are the things we are often guilty of. Back up your silly statement. Give evidence. I challenege you to consider the option that you are the judgemental one and realize that people who go to church are not as concerned with you as you think they are. Perhaps you have things in your life that you know you need to change and its easier to think the pressure is coming from a stranger rather than from inside of yourself. Its ok to strive to live a good life.
“The only type of people that judge others for what model vehicle they drive are people that cant afford to drive one themselves.”
Now that’s funny comment 240. I judged her for driving a Hummer, and I can afford and do drive much nicer than that. So your blanket statement is wrong. The fact is, a family facing mounting financial problems (she said), a teacher who works at one of the poorer schools in the district (well known Bush fact) – driving a Hummer was probably something she could have reconsidered in light of those mounting financial problems. Gimme a break.
I wonder — if she is back in the classroom — how carefully are parents watching her?
reader and all you others quick to make armchair judgements…
don’t be idiots.
Do you honestly think that anyone that went through this experience would go back to the classroom? Would you, if this incident happened to you?
Can you think of any mother who would expose her children to careless scrutiny after such a horrible event? I know some bad mothers, but none that bad, and I’m sure you don’t know any, either.
Idaho Falls will soon see the last of Jennifer, if she is not already gone. Can anyone think differently, especially after all the judgmental posts on her in this topic alone? How many similar thoughts have been passed on to her from others who didn’t post here?
Judging from some of the comments I’ve read here, it seems a fair number of righteous I.F. citizens would prefer to hold her down and brand a big A on her forehead. This community used to be full of compassion, but it looks to me that it’s in mighty short supply now.
Isn’t enough that all the lives involved were ruined?
Well, men don’t seem to have a problem sticking around after ruining their families and becoming the scorn of the community – look at Daren Palmer! At least his wife had the sense to get out of dodge.
Do I think she’d go back to the classroom? After reading her PR interview, she exuded innocence and blamed her husband for everything. Without taking any personal responsibility, yes – she may very well have decided to go back. I’ll see my Bush Ele. friend soon, so all I have to do is ask. I can’t believe someone here doesn’t know if she’s teaching or not. IF is too small of a town!
Dog wants evidence. All you have to do is go back through the 200+ comments and read all the ones that quote religious or bible verses and see how these people are being so judgemental. Don’t ask somebody else to do your homework for you. Doesn’t your bible tell you not to judge lest ye be judged yourself? I don’t usually clump all religious people together but it does seem that the middle aged religious women on this site have the biggest problem with Jennifer and are the ones who seem to justify this mans actions for taking another persons life.
I suppose you would justify Tiger Woods’ wife if she went out and murdered all 15 of his mistresses? Come on. The fact is people cheat, people sin and people make bad decisions everyday. NONE of us are perfect, so lets try not to be so judgemental.
BTW, is Reader68 the same person as Reader in comment 245 & 247? I thought they were different until the last couple comments.
I don’t see what model car somebody drives has anything to do with anything in this case, other than one more thing to judge Jennifer for.
We can all agree a tradgedy occurred here and Jennifer made some bad choices but the fact is her husband was the one who pulled the trigger and took another mans life. I’m shocked at how many posters dismiss that part.
I have only posted under Reader68. Believe it or not! I have read all of them and the previous three that I posted(231, 237, 239) are my only posts ever, on any page. What is the point of hiding under multiple alias’s when we are already anonymous? Makes no sense.
I’m not real religious, don’t care if people are, and I like reading all of the different points of view on this topic. As I said, the thing that pissed me off was Jennifer talking to the PR and slamming a dude that wasn’t even cold yet. He obviously had no chance to rebut/defend himself and his story will never be heard. Because of that interview and (in my view) extreme lack of character, I would never allow her to teach and mentor my kids.
McGuilicutty, myself and most of us here can probably afford to drive a Hummer. I choose not to because I think they suck! However, if I did, I would not publicly blame my wife for my financial problems, even if she was dead.
Sorry, I’m the original “reader”. No numbers. Have been for a long time. And I’m definately not a middle aged religious woman. Too funny. Matthias would have had a lot more credibility with everyone had she not spilled her guts to the PR before her husband or boyfriend were even buried. It brought “tactless” to a whole new level. Funny how some “judge” posters they believe are “judging” others…..
By the way, Keith Matthias’ own brother posted this on another site on Dec. 30.
“Keith, the man who shot Jack and later himself was my brother. Although the details of this seem questionable, Keith was dealing with many issues including the pending breakup of his 17-year marriage. I believe this, mixed with other personal issues and debt were the reason he chose to take the life of the man who had recently shown an interest in Keith’s wife. This is a tragedy, of course, but the ones who will suffer the most are the wife and three children Keith left behind”.
the real hummers are the only very expensive ones. The military style ones that is. The h2 that mr Mathias drove and the h3 mrs Mathias drove are more in the range of a nice truck or suv. but i do think the type of people who buy them want us to all think they are pretty special for having one. they are flashy and play off the image that the original $100,000+ hummers created. I think the hummers are not so much an issue of affordability as much as they are an insight to the type of people they wanted to portray themselves as.
Have any of you met her? Obviously not because you would know what an amazing person she is. I think it is sad and pathetic that you all judge her but you don’t even know her or the whole story. Instead of judging her maybe you could pray for her and her family. This is so tragic and everyone stating all these things doesn’t help. I support her and will never stop. Have a heart.
How do you support her? Do you line her up with more dates now that her spouse is dead and buried, and her last and boyfriend is also six feet under? Maybe you pay her shoulder, tell her she never deserved all this misery, really isn’t a tramp, and isn’t at fault for the horrid deaths of her husband and boyfriend: You then hug her and tell her soon her life will be so much better, right?
Perhaps you help pay her bills, clean her home, take her children to their school and counseling events, and assure that paper work is completed so that they soon receive monthly SS payments for each of Mr. Matthias’ dependant children. Certainly the woman is too despondent and self absorbed to care for those chores herself.
Yeah, she’s an amazing woman. So amazing that she announced on the world wide interweb that she could heal with the touch of her fingers. She’s more than a little, amazingly touched in the head. The woman is incapable of healthy relationships, and the two men with whom she’d been intimate are now dead. Real amazing, that monkey.
Knock it off, WendyJo…
Your obsessions are showing, and they’re just as ugly this time around as last. We don’t need more gasoline thrown on this particular fire. Sarcasm was never your strong suit, anyway, and you’re getting no better at it.
LOL@boomer
and by the way for the person who posted something about the numbers of my name… I had no clue that was a song. I have never even heard of the guy that sings it LOL
HAHAHA
And LAW Jennifer wasnt the one who pulled the trigger..she isnt the one thats going to have to pay for her husband pulling the trigger.
Pay for her other sins sure…but arent we all. Some more than others. But really its not up to us to judge her.
and as for the person that posted have you ever met her? Yes I have and she is a amazing person. I would feel safe if she was teaching my kids (if I had some in grade school).
We are all sinning right now as we type and read these messages.. isnt this like taking part in gossip LOL
That’s why it’s tough to banter with kids. Somehow I doubt the number part. Oh well.
Guest8765309 Oh Sun Say,
you have a LOT to learn in theology… No matter how much she has you and several other “addicted/obsessed” people in her life she has proven she is a master manipulator NOT a healer. She told the truth to the PR because she became obsessed with being written about and becoming what she thought would be popularly and possibly pitied. But she showed the world she pulled the trigger herself.
“Then I remembered that Keith had A LOT of guns.” Any mother with an IQ of 50 ALWAYS remembers EVERYDAY that there are GUNS in the house. Jennifer HOPED and PRAYED for this outcome because then she would have her freedom and MONEY!!! She gave him the hangman’s rope.
You must either live in a different dimension from the rest of us OR you need to make an appt on Monday to talk to a Psychologist about your needy and enabling personality.
All I have to say is I feel bad for her class. I am sure she has students that face learning challenges as with every classroom. My point is I was told there is a sub still in the classroom (not a certified teacher) Is that fair for them children?? I dont think so. Wonder why the parents of them students havent complaine? Maybe its because nothing they say to the school principal or district really matters or THE PARENTS OF THEM STUDENTS DONT KNOW? I think they should have the news follow up on this story. Its sad these poor childrens education is going down hill.
Guest 2365,
I think “them children” are way better off without a mentally unbalanced teacher who believes she has magical healing powers in her fingertips…. I would much rather have my child in the classroom with a sub without a certification than in the classroom with a “certifiable” teacher who has OBVIOUS MENTAL ISSUES as well as an OBVIOUS CHARACTER DISORDER….
At least she didn’t kill anyone right? Or do you think that’s “ok” since she had an affair? hmmm…lets weigh that one for a moment. —-taking somebodys life — cheating on your husband—- yeah that’s a tough one. According to you, everyone that cheats on their spouse, boyfriend/girlfriend, partner, etc. has a mental disorder. That’s over half the population. According to your thought process, there should be a lot more murders occuring. Weird wild stuff.
Comment 260 makes a good point – if there is a long term sub – the school better crap or get off the pot and make a decision about her job. But if it’s a sub with some sort of certification or training/education, I don’t think the kids will suffer. If it’s a fly by night sub out of practice, then yeah, the parents probably have something to worry about. I guess if you’re a parent of a child in that classroom you’d better be on top of things. The rest of us can only give opinions.
I think the PR would have more luck following up on the victims of the Daren Palmer fiasco and how their lives turned out as a result of losing so much money. I doubt many would speak to the press at this point on the Matthias case.
From what I over heard in Barnes and Noble there were 2 women talking about their church young womens groups and suddenly the conversation turned into the teacher at Bush school, according to the one woman the children are not doing well in that class. They are going more and more downhill everyday, then she said she wasnt coming back until the end of Feb. Thats way to long to have a uncertified sub in a classroom. Those children are getting ready to go to Jr high, they need all the help they can get.
It dont suprise me that NOTHING is being done to make sure those children are getting the proper education they deserve. The school district should have stepped in already. Why would someone want to vote to pass the bond when their children dont get the help they deserve.
After hearing this I doubt I will vote to pass a bond again. I vote NO
I dont have children thats school age all my children are grown.
Guest2365…
What makes you think those 2 women you overheard know anything at all about the substitute teacher or how the class is doing? They could have just as easily been ignorantly gossiping… and you ignorantly pass what you overheard on as gospel. You don’t know at all for a fact about anything you posted. The kids could be doing a lot better just as easily as worse.
Do you actually KNOW any substitute teachers? Do you know anything about the District’s vetting program and qualifications for substitutes?
I know several substitute teachers. Some are very experienced teachers who retired for various reasons, others are younger teachers who have taken some time off from their teaching careers to raise their kids, and a few are laid-off professionals from other careers. The certification may lapse, but their skills and experience don’t.
Long-term substitutes in classrooms are nothing new at all. Teachers, just like everyone, can come down with long-term illness, or long-term family problems, such as needing to be home to help another family member recovering from serious illness or injury. Neither of these violate the contract every teacher has with the school district.
Nothing Jennifer Mattias did violated her contract. She can go back and finish her term if she decides to, or can resign. It’s up to her.
Personally, given her troubles, I think the kids will be better off with a sub than if she comes back. It doesn’t take kids very long to adapt to a new situation and settle down again.
I think you could benefit from a few lessons from one of those subs you are badmouthing … you could use a little help in your reasoning, grammar and writing skills.
Boomer did someone hit a nerve? Reader is just stating what he/she overheard. Reader never said the sub wasnt doing a great job, it was the two woman talking at Barnes and Noble?
In fact everyone thats posting and reading these comments are expressing their own opinion and gossiping right? So everyone is entitled to post and believe what they want.
So Boomer were you one of the women in Barnes and Noble gossiping? LOL
Airborn, I believe boomer was talking about Guest2365 not reader. And I think it’s a point well made. Too many people are so quite to gossip about “what they heard” and present it as fact. It’s one thing to present your opinion and something completely different to gossip.
sorry about the typo, I meant to say so quick, not so quite. argh!
For post 267…
I meant to say Guest not reader sorry for the typo.
The part where she is coming back at the end of Febuary is a fact. (So the women that Guest heard was for once speaking the truth, unless she changes her mind)
Its pretty much a fact that everyone gossips (some more than others though)
Hey Mcguilty,
I said Jennifer has an obvious mental disorder because she claims to have magical healing powers in her fingertips…Not exactly the claim of a sound mind… The cheating on her husband is part of what I called her character disorder which is most likely Sociopathy. Sociopaths are sexually permiscuous, and crave excitement and attention and are callously indifferent to the devestation they cause to others… Just read her manipulative and despicable PR interview a day or two after both of the men that she was sleeping with died…
Here is the sociopathy checklist developed by DR Robert Hare, PHD:
Interpersonal traits :
• Glib and superficial
• Egocentric and grandiose
• Lack of remorse or guilt
• Lack of empathy
• Deceitful and manipulative
• Shallow emotions
Antisocial lifestyle:
• Impulsive
• Poor behavior controls
• Need for excitement
• Lack of responsibility
• Early behavior problems
• Adult antisocial behavior
I think it is pretty obvious from her actions and her interview as well as her grandiose and egotistical claims of possesing magical healing powers, that Jenny has many of the above qualities which define a Sociopath.
Hi, McGuilicutty…
Yup- you got it right all around.
Airborn…
This entire thread hit a nerve. No matter what Jennifer’s mental state is, or how badly she messed up a situation that became a deadly turn of events, she has paid a higher price for her nature and actions than any of us here ever have paid, or God willing, ever will.
This whole thing smacks of a witch hunt, and it’s sickening to read. I refrained from writing for a long time until I couldn’t stand the rotten armchair condemnation any more.
Not a person here is so perfect that they won’t need some compassion at some time in their life. It all goes around, and what you spread will come back.
It’s time to leave this woman alone. She still has a lifetime ahead that the events of one evening will continue to haunt her. Isn’t that torture enough?
Why make a dog pile and stack in on? Does Idaho Falls really want to be displayed in such a cold-hearted, judgmental manner?
I agree 100% Boomer. I would never want to wake up every morning having to deal with any of that.
Cheyera, anything else to contribute to this post other then your disdain for this woman. You continue to post the same comments over and over, I think we all know how you feel towards this woman. Calling her a sociopath 50 more times won’t change anything. But maybe one more (checklist) will get your point across?
McGuilty,
My message is that everyone everywhere should learn to recognize the traits of a Sociopath. Sociopaths leave a wake of devestation and destruction in their path just like Jenny did. Jenny (and you) should not take it personally. I feel “disdain” toward all Sociopaths. So should everyone else. There is no known cure for sociopathy. If people learn to recognize these manipulators for what they truly are it may save them from the type of tragedy which we are discussing on this message board.
Exactly Boomer…..gotta love the armchair psychiatrist’s on this site.
As I noted before, people have their hearts broken and are cheated on everyday, it doesn’t excuse murder.
CR67,
as many others noted on this message board before, the cheated on party with the “broken heart” is usually not deliberately lured into a confrontation with a violent ex-con.
And as far as your arrogant “arm chair psychiatrist” comment, everyone with the ability to read should take the time to educate themselves on how to recognize a sociopath… That is exactly why Dr Hare developed the sociopathy checklist … His purpose was to educate mental health professionals and everyone else on how to recognize a sociopath. The sociopathy checklist is used in the criminal justice system (as well as by mental health professionals) to identify sociopaths. Dr Hare also wrote the book “Without Conscience” in which he warns that everyone should learn to recognize the traits of a sociopath because these master manipulators have an unmatched ability to wreck havoc on everyone unlucky enough to be involved with them. Maybe you ought to try reading it.
Sounds like a real “page turner”.
I’ve read up on Sociopaths. After said reading, I was fairly certain that many of the people that I know fit into that category, many more than must be the statistical norm.
IMO, that’s kind of human nature, I was looking for it, so lo-and-behold, there it was. Look for the number 6, and you’ll see it everywhere.
I like that there are books about all kinds of maladies and human disfunctions, but I worry that it also makes a lot of people think that they are experts in areas where they are not, and that can cause problems. If diagnosis were that easy, we wouldn’t have so many doctors paying back hundreds of thousands of dollars in student loans… and we’d have a lot more doctors.
Exactly. We can’t assume someone is a sociopath, bi-polar, schizophrenic or any other form of physcological disorder by matching up a few “bullet points” to somebodys personality. Especially since nobody commenting on this topic knows this woman on a personal level. We’ve all showed traits of those bullet points at one time or other throughout the course of our lives, spoken before thinking first, exagerrated qualities about ourselves in order to look more appealing or impressive to others, etc. Reading a book or two on a certain topic does not an expert make which is why I stand by the armchair psychiatrist comment.
We’re all entitled to our opinions though and I’m not out to change anyone elses. This woman has to live with the consequences of her bad decisions and it’s not my place to judge or “diagnose” her.
Cheyerra-
It’s one thing to print checklists with personality traits you think match a person on here, it’s a whole other thing to sit with someone week after week, test after test, and then PROFESSIONALLY determine they are anti-social, narcisstic, bipolar, borderline, etc. No one, even myself (who has been opinionated as anyone on this topic) can take one night’s actions combined with one bad newspaper interview and make a true psychological diagnosis. If you could, you’d be sued for malpractice!
I’d say she acted pretty dumb and selfish over many months time, but unless you know and spend time with her personally, and are a licensed professional trained to diagnose and treat, none of us can diagnose her except in our imaginations.
CR67,
and just how many books have you read on the subject? Probably none… Yet you arrogantly dismiss “Without Conscious” as “a real page turner” and haughtily call people who actually do read and educate themselves on this subject names. Your reaction reminds me of the scripture warning not to cast pearls before swine.
Alice and Reader,
many people do have one or two of the traits listed on the sociopathy checklist, but it is when a person has a majority of those traits that the red flags should be noticed.
I think most of us can agree that the interview Jennifer granted so soon after the deaths of her husband and her boyfriend was both bizarre and disturbing. It was obviously manipulative in an attempt to justify her own actions by claiming her husband was on medication and had other issues and therefore deserved to be cheated on and told about her affair (with the felon) a week before Christmas. It was also filled with lies such as “forgetting about her husband owning guns” and claiming that her husband “was accepting” of her affair with her boyfriend. The timing of the interview itself showed a callous lack of feelings… the average person would not be able to grant an interview so soon after that magnitude of tragedy.
Every person should take the time and effort to educate themselves on sociopathy. If you learn to recognize the symptoms then you may be able to avoid the type of situation we are discussing. I don’t believe that only a doctor can recognize the signs of illnesses. Most patients can recognize their own symptoms and have the ability to assist their doctors in their own diagnosis. It is no different for mental illnesses. However,most sociopaths do not volunteer to go to a doctor for a diagnosis. They feel they are perfectly fine, in fact these malignant narcissists feel they are much, much better than “fine” .If you are really going to wait months or years for a psychiatrist to finally diagnose the suspected sociopath in your life, you may very well end up just like the folks we are discussing…
If it looks like a duck, if it quacks like a duck….Then it’s probably a duck!
I stand by my opinion of Jennifer being a sociopath based on her actions and on her interview.
I personally have never witnessed my husband murdering my boyfriend and then shooting himself, so I still will not judge.
It’s not worth arguing with a person like Cheyera. I liken her to the super religous, do no wrong people who stand out in front of abortion clinics protesting and then turn around and justify the actions of the guy who murders the doctor for performing those abortions. wacko!
McGuilty,
You really need to get a grip on both your grammar and your reasoning ability or lack there of. Calling a person ” super religious” or “judgemental” because they have the ability to come to an educated opinion about whether Jennifer fits the profile of a sociopath just doesn’t make any sense.
According to you, Jennifer can have an affair, set up a confrontation where two men die, grant a manipulative interview full of lies, slander and self justifications the very next day, and no one should be allowed to form an opinion on her actions or they are just being “judgmental and super religious”. However, it is okay for you to judge me with some nonsensical rant about abortion clinic protests and supporting the killing of abortion doctors. Can anyone say “Hypocrite”?
For your information, I strongly support “pro-choice” and I do not belong to any organized church or religion. However, I have educated myself on recognizing the traits of a sociopath by reading books and articles on the subject. It is no different then reading up on how to recognize the signs of cancer, heart disease, depression or any other physical or mental illness. I cannot diagnosis Jennifer as a sociopath, but I can form an educated opinion. I came to my conclusions about Jennifer by observing both her words and her actions just as we have all had the opportunity to do.
Alice,
Did you ever consider that you are not in Jennifer’s situation because you did not make the kinds of selfish and callous choices that a sociopath makes without an ounce of remorse? You really should develop the courage to form educated opinions and not be afraid of being called “judgmental” or anything else by others who may disagree or have other agendas.
Jennifer’s actions and words are the actions and words of a sociopath. That is exactly why they are so disturbing.
Sorry, I’m definitely not afraid to be judgmental, I simply save my judgment for people that I know well enough to deserve it. Everything we know about this case came from the media. Not one of us here were in the car with her, and I don’t think any of us where holding her hand at the interview.
Wow, I always thought being non-judgmental was a GOOD trait… go figure.
I don’t think you’re “forming an opinion” as much as diagnosing her like you’re her doctor. Not once out of the almost 300 comments on this topic, have you placed any blame whatsoever (or even mentioned displeasure) towards the man who actually pulled the trigger and took another persons life. In MY opinion, there’s something wrong with that picture. But that’s just me, what do I know.
Alice,
So with that logic you wouldn’t be able to form an opinion on Hitler because you didn’t personally know him and weren’t present at the concentration camps and didn’t hold his hand during his speeches. After all, everything we know about Hitler comes from the media….
Although I wasn’t sitting in the car with Jenny that night , I did observe her expressionless face on TV (while she was sitting in the police car) right after the death of her boyfriend. I wasn’t there with Jenny during her PR interview, but I did read her manipulative and despicable words that she hasn’t denied speaking… We all form opinions on people we don’t personally know based on thier actions and their words or their reported words. Have you ever met a presidential candidate? Probably not, but you are still able to form an opinion or make a “judgement” between the candidates and vote. It is ludicrous to say you cannot form an educated opinion on someone unless you know them personally.
I am able to form an educated opinion about Jennifer (even without the pleasure of personally knowing her) by observing her words and her actions and by educating myself to recognize the traits of a sociopath.
Wow! And here I thought I was the only one you were being condesending to.
You’re wrong in saying “everything we know about Hitler came from the media”. I won’t bother to do your homework for you (since you love to read so much), but you loose a lot of credibility with a comment like that.
The fact is, you DON’T know Jennifer. You DON’T know Alice and whether or not she’s met a Presidential candidate. And you DON’T know me and what books I have or haven’t read or whether my minor in college was in psychology. You haven’t been forming an opinion of this woman as much as you’ve been bashing her from day one by calling everything from a slut to a sociopath. The real quetion is why continue to repeat yourself over and over but ignore the real issue here and that is the murder. You don’t seem to mind that this man murdered another human being so I won’t bother to go round and round in circles with you. Jennifer is obviously not the only one with issues here. Good luck with your witch hunt.
Your latest rant speaks for itself. First of all, if you are going to quote me you need to go back and re read my posts. Secondly, there are 288 posts on here, not 300 and I definitely did not write all of them.
Since my very first post I have been consistent in my opinion of Jennifer having the traits of a sociopath based on her actions and the interview.
If you really have some sort of degree in psychology then it’s time to take some CEUs. Dr Hare is considered the foremost expert on sociopathy yet you arrogantly stated his book “sounds like a real page turner”. I would think someone with a degree in psychology would find a book on this topic written by the world’s most recognized expert in sociopathy to be interesting.
Once again, can anyone say “Hypocrite”? You DON’T know me and my background yet you are forming an opinion on me based on a lot less then we know about Jennifer.
It’s not about a “witch hunt”. It’s about recognizing the traits of a sociopath in order to avoid the very situation we are all discussing.
Cheyerra – I can’t help but wonder if you have had personal experience in your life with a male or female who you believed to be a sociopath?
Reader,
There are literally millions of sociopaths (the official statistic is 4% of the population). Everyone has been effected by a sociopath in one way or another, but most people just don’t recognize what they are dealing with. That is why it is so important to educate yourself about this topic. Popular Hollywood movies have confused the terms “psychotic” with “sociopath”. Sociopaths are not psychotic and therefore they cannot use the insanity defense in court.
The recommended way to deal with a sociopath is by going “No Contact”. That means get them out of your life ASAP before you find yourself in the type of situation we are discussing on this message board.
Knowledge is Power!
No I don’t have a degree in psychology, you missed my point entirely. And no I didn’t say there were 300 posts I said ALMOST 300 posts. This is getting tiresome and not worth discussing anymore. Good luck with your witch hunt.
CR67,
here is the modern definition of a “witch hunt”:
The term is usually used more metaphorically to refer to a search for a perceived enemy, with the implication of the hysteria, prejudice and injustice that was often seen in the great early modern witchhunts.
How does recognizing the symptoms of sociopathy show “prejudice, injustice or hysteria”? That just doesn’t make any sense. I came to my opinion because of her actions and her interview. Like I said before, I really had no opinion on her until I read the PR interview in which she manipulated, lied, slandered, threw a public pity party for herself and justified all her actions.
Like I stated before, her husband made a very bad and tragic choice, but I doubt he had the opportunity to calmly weigh the pros and cons when he was lured (by Jenifer) to a confrontation with her violent, ex-felon boyfriend whom he had just been told about over dinner.
If you chose to keep your head in its proverbial dark place regarding this topic then that is your choice to make.
why dont you guys just exchange phone #s and go back and forth together that way. im tired of my e-mail telling me about this little side debate
Something tells me Cheyerra and the old Crystal from two summers ago would get along beautifully….or kill each other.
You’re point has been stated Cheyerra. Again and again. Why are you so hellbent on making everyone agree with you?
Hi “ghost” how nice of you to join us this late on the message board … Can anyone say “sock puppet?”
If you don’t like my posts then you don’t have to read them, but I have the right to state my opinion just like everyone else.
There are obviously individuals on this message board who state their points “again and again”, they just change their user name.
I don’t care who agrees with me, that is exactly why I don’t have to keep reinventing my identity. If you have a valid opinion on this subject (or on any other subject), then you should have the ability to state it and back it up. I am not trying to make anyone agree with me, I am defending my position.
Somebody please kill this thread…………………
Wait! Did anyone ever answer if Jennifer Matthias is still teaching kids in Idaho Falls School District or not?
Guest, an anonymous and apparently unauthoritative source posted that Mrs Matthias was on leave from her teaching position until at least the end of February of this year. Of course we’ve no way of verifying that information. Right?
Cheyerra, you and others have accused board members of sock puppeting; using more than one registered nic when posting. Why?
Are you surprised that more than one individual might find difference with your opinion? And even offer inquiry, requiring explanation? Because you sound insulted.
Your words/response sound as if you’ve been insulted and in turn are meant to insult him or her with whom you correspond.
I’m confused. How did you intend your message to come across? How would it of come across better if you would have thought about it in advance?
s i g h If only that tramp, Jennifer, would have kept these communication details in mind.
Wendy Jo,
I only learned what the term “sock puppet” meant recently and it was on this message board…It was when someone accused me and a member of my household of doing it. The way I come to my own conclusions on who is actually using the method of “sock puppeting” is by looking at the writing styles, and by using common sense. Common sense tells me that someone (like “ghost”) is not going to join this conversation after over a month of discussion just to comment on my posts and not even leave any opinion at all on the topic being discussed. Just like common sense should tell all of us that someone isn’t going to randomly come up with the numbers “8675309″ for a user name and they just happen to be the title of a song about a girl named Jenny. Yet that is what that individual expects us to believe. As far as posters on this site alternating names, it’s a fact. One of them admitted it on this messageboard several weeks ago. You can scroll back through the posts and verify. Fool me once, shame on you…fool me twice shame on me…
Again, I have the right to state my opinion and back it up.
Moderator, Please kill this thread. It has lost focus and has become boring.
Love24wheel, Speak for yourself. If you’re bored of this thread, then don’t read it. Nobody is stopping you from blocking the e-mail notifications.
I’m surprised that the discussion on this topic is still going relatively strong. I don’t have the intention of becoming involved again because it appears that everyone has their own opinions that haven’t changed since the tragedy occurred, myself included. But I’d like to leave one last comment before I leave this discussion behind me.
Dulling the situation down to “Mr. Matthias physically pulled the trigger, so it’s all his fault!” is either oversimplifying or ignoring the other factors in this tragedy. Bear in mind that Jennifer told him about her affair a week before Christmas and a day before he received his anti-depressants. Bear in mind that this information was a major bombshell that had abruptly been dropped on him, and that people can have uncharacteristic reactions in situations like that. Certain people keep saying that we should stop judging Jennifer, but maybe those people need to take their own advice and stop judging Mr. Matthias. Temporary insanity does exist, and it can happen to anyone. If it wasn’t a valid issue, then it wouldn’t be a court defense. Nobody knows how they will react in a devastatingly stressful situation until it actually happens.
Also bear in mind that Jennifer called up Jack, and he met Mr. Matthias face-to-face. That’s another bombshell dropped onto Mr. Matthias, kudos to Jennifer. Those are the events that lead to their deaths. If Jennifer hadn’t cheated, told Mr. Matthias at a particularly bad time or called up Jack to “protect” her, it wouldn’t have happened. This is Jennifer’s fault. Anyone who characterizes a person’s entire being by his one moment of weakness and his reaction to that weakness is much more judgmental than people who form conclusions on Jennifer based on several of her actions, including the slanderous, manipulative Post Register interview.
And that’s exactly why I disagree that poor, pitiful Jennifer has to live with any remorse about what happened. Her quotes in that interview are simply not what a traumatized, grieving person would say. A normal person wouldn’t even be in the right state of mind to agree to answer an interview—if she didn’t initiate it herself, that is. I’m guessing that she did, since someone who claims to have magical healing powers and has a habit of mowing the lawn in a bikini would be the type who loves to bask in the limelight.
As for whether she’s a sociopath or not, I don’t think it takes a PhD to figure that one out. Her interview smacks of Scott Peterson and OJ Simpson as she expresses not even a sliver of remorse. Can we agree that her reaction was abnormal, at least? Just because she isn’t professionally diagnosed doesn’t mean that she isn’t a sociopath. Doctors are human, too, and they don’t know everything. When my grandmother told the doctor that she thought she had pancreatic cancer, he brushed it off and insisted that she had irritable bowel syndrome. Sure enough, she had pancreatic cancer, and she found out by researching the illness on her own. Something very similar happened to my half-sister’s grandmother. The point I’m trying to make is that people can have issues that go undiagnosed, especially something like sociopathy that people don’t exactly get regular checkups for. Also, doctors use little more than a checklist to diagnose personality disorders since there is no physical test for them. If Dr. Hare says that his checklist is meant for the average person’s use, who am I to question his credentials? Thankfully, he isn’t the egotistical type who thinks that only the opinions of other M.D.s matter. We’re not helpless, and we don’t need a diploma on the wall to have an opinion. Every good doctor, professor, scientist, and teacher will say, “Do your own research.” Walter Scott said, “All people who have turned out worth anything have had the chief hand in their own education.” I also disagree that the qualities on that checklist can apply to anyone if you stretch it far enough. The vast majority of the people I know don’t fit those descriptions at all. I don’t know Jennifer personally, but from what I do know, that checklist sounds spot on. Egocentric and grandiose? Well, she drives a Hummer, has an Apple membership, and she thinks she has magical healing powers in her fingertips. Impulsive? I think it was pretty impulsive to call up Jack instead of driving to the police station. Lack of empathy? She didn’t seem to be very empathetic toward Mr. Matthias or her kids, or else she wouldn’t have destroyed her family. And then she ditched all seven of her cats. Poor behavior control and lack of responsibility? Well, having an affair with an ex-con isn’t exactly what I’d describe as responsible or a good control of behavior. Lack of remorse or guilt? I don’t think I need to go into that one. Hey, if the shoe fits…
Anyway, saying “cheating isn’t as bad as murder!!111!” is an oversimplification, and honestly degrading to the entire situation. Anyone who takes everything in context will clearly be able to see who is at fault here.
I didn’t go to the funeral because I don’t live in Idaho Falls anymore, but I drew a picture in memory of Mr. Matthias that can be found here: link I’ll be ordering a print soon and sending it to IFHS. For everyone who’s saying that we can’t judge a person unless we know them personally…well, I disagree with that first of all, but second of all I did know Mr. Matthias personally, so I guess that gives me the right to make a judgment. He was a very reliable, stable, and calm person and one of the most mellow teachers I’ve ever had. He never expressed the slightest bit of anger in the classroom, at least, so I believe it’s fair to say that the tragic choice he made in a moment of extreme passion was uncharacteristic and it’s unfair to assess him as a person because of it. I don’t, at least, and neither do any of my fellow students who were in his class.
R.I.P. Mr. Matthias.
is’nt about time to give this up people
Student, You just illustrated my point. This thread has been beaten to death!! Now it is just time to let it lie. Please kill this thread moderator. These people will never quit trying to one up each other.
I don’t see a justifiable reason for closing the thread. Other threads on this site were closed for legit reasons, but just because a few are tired of reading differing opinions doesn’t mean close it. As a side note, I only wish those who have graduated high school could write as well as former student above.
Thanks Reader,
Student is my daughter, and she was actually in Mr. Matthias’s class last year. She is still in high school, but we have relocated out of state. I am very proud of her strong sense of right and wrong as well as her beautiful writing style. She is right on in her final posting and analysis of this tragedy.If someone is asking for this thread to be terminated it is obviously for their own personal agendas. I think she has said it all….. Peace out…
RIP Keith Matthias
well i think its about time to give up on this all you guys are doing is arguing back and forth and saying the same stuff over and over how long did this happen its been a while… JUST GIVE IT UP
Jess,
In post #48 you vehemently defended Jennifer. Here is your final quote copied and pasted from your angry rant;
THINK YOU JUST A BUNCH OF F***** B*******
Other than that “contribution” (if you can call it that) well over a month ago, you very recently began posting again, but only to repeatedly request that everyone stop discussing this topic and “move on” after all it’s “been a while”….
I’d say that is bizarre. If you don’t like it, don’t read it.
I want to add that Student’s post #302 is full of wisdom as well as common sense as an editorial on the whole tragedy. I strongly believe that it should remain available for others to read.
One must ask, how old are you JESS? I re-read post #48 and I thought my 14 year old cousin got drunk and started typing. You keep repeating “give it up, move on, etc” – maybe it’s time for YOU to give up on this thread and move on, and let those who want to discuss it continue accordingly.
Cheyerra, no one is going to can this thread or edit student’s post. Stick around here a few years and you’ll see the type of stuff that gets edited is not even close to this.
I am jack’s ex wife and the one he was charged battery for he was a master manipulator and this is simply karma for the pain he has cause me and my childeren and family!
Jack Purcell held a gun in his ex-wife’s mouth as she hung out a second story window in coeur d’ alene and shattered her face in which she had to have surgery on he is NOT a victim of anything except KARMA he did all this in front of her two young boys and little brother while he was strung out on meth he deservered it there is a family that is greatful he is gone who has lived in fear of him for several years they are finally free the little boys wont have nightmares any more from this man who beat their mother in front of them! If anyone wants a picture of the real monster go to montana inmate search and look at how evil he really is Jack was a MONSTER!
Sheila,
Thank you for giving us some insight to Jack Purcell.
I know what you have lived through because I’ve been there before. I hope that you and your children can find peace now and can feel safe once again.
Best Wishes,
Tammy
If shiela is the ex wife why did she suddenly start talking about herself in the third person as if she was talking about someone else? The things described may well have happened but I’m dubious that the author of those posts is in fact the ex wife. Grammar is obviously not his / her friend (I know I’m not perfect either but I’m better than shiela was) and the slip to 3rd person is exactly what I’d expect from someone who obviously was struggling to write a legible paragraph.
Or jerk I copied and pasted it and when someone has been through what he has done to my children and me I was writing that is tears and a bit shaken up since the last thing I was told by this man as he walked out of our home when he tried to kill me and shattered my face was “I will get you bitch if it’s the last thing I do!” Keep in mind I had three histerical children in my arms and it is all in the records mind you look up Idaho repository and you will find it I was forced to come back to Idaho and testify in court against him which was also very terrifying Me and my children have been living in an undisclosed place where he could no longer harm us so happy is an understatement as to how we feel! He beat me several times and had a pending case in Las Vegas for kidnapping me and my children and took us on a highspeed chase during rush hour traffic that lasted several hours ending in a man finally helping us at a gas station by calling the police this man claimed that he was getting clean and it was the effects of the meth wearing off and so I tried to get him help. he promised several weeks later to be “clean” when he tried to kill me infront of my children and then broke several protection orders placed against him our only choice was to leave and hide I am glad he is dead! like I stated prior he is a MONSTER! He has a rap sheet in Nevada, Montana, Idaho, Arizona and he is able to use women and decieve people in a way only a conartist can. WE ARE FINALLY FREE!
Sounds as if someone is looking for attention.
I feel for the three children with out a father now and who knows if Jack weasled his way in to Jennifers life if they had only been dating for a few weeks she probably didn’t have a clue that she was a target. Shiela it sounds as if you are a strong woman who has been through a lot I looked up his picture as suggested in montana he does look crazy. I don’t think shiela is trying to get attention she is just happy why would anyone suggest that someone would want attention after all he did to her?
https://app.mt.gov/cgi-bin/conweb/conwebLookup.cgi?docid=2068639
I agree with you Mike,
I don’t beleive she was looking for attention at all.
And as for picking her writing apart – I think that – that’s rather insensitive. Always has to be someone to either be mean spirited, cause trouble or both.
No one knows what she and her family have gone through!
Tammy
Seems like Sheila and Mike know each other, otherwise how would Mike get out of her three postings that Sheila is happy. Nothing in her rant tells me that’s a happy woman. And really, who cares what the guy looks like. I know quite a few people that look crazy but are perfectly sane. Whatever. Anybody can come online and pretend to be someone they’re not in order to put someone else down. That’s certainly a cry for attention in my book.
It said we are greatful dude does that sound like she is unhappy to you man? I don’t know her jsut voiced my opinion and posted the link sounds like she isn’t trying to get attention you are guest by picking apart everyones opinions on here I bet you knew someone related to this closely or you wouldnt be so angry about it…dude who pee’d in your wheaties today? What did I do to deserve your attacks? It’s friday man chill out! Be happy!
In big bold letters dude “WE ARE FINALLY FREE” yeah that is someone who is terribly unhappy!
Whatever you say.
Funny how Mike & Sheila both incorrectly spelled grateful. Way to go there “dude”. haha
Whoa I also miss spelled jsut I must be a relative your funny DUDE! I thought this was a forum about the shooting and those involve shiela which is how she spelled it spoke about someone who was shot and killed as did everyone on here exept……oh yeah you’re hiding your identity because you were his lover too right after all you are an english teacher or just the spelling police? I think that this is a very sad story and feel for ALL parties involved in a positive light I am the bigger man here so I will do as shiela seems to have done and leave! so much for freedom of speech or the right to an opinion! Guest you need to chill I dont know her nor do I know you nor do I care enough to allow you to tick me off dude gl in your mission to put others down. BTW the link I posted above is his mug shot from montana that DOES to me indicate he is a looser check it out for your self then talk smack! PUT THAT IN YOUR JUICE BOX AND SIP ON IT! BE BREEZY, I will say a prayer for all involved in this story today!
Sheila and Mike are the same person, it’s obvious. Both have the same writing style complete with the exact same errors. Niether one has made friends with the complete sentence structure. Who ever you are, put a period after each sentence (or thought) and start the next with a capital letter, your words will read much easier.
Just some friendly english advice, I don’t really care if you want to sock puppet.
I love when the puppet-masters have conversations with themselves. It’s quite entertaining.
There have been great advances in the medical field these days to help with multiple personality disorders.