I’ve often heard it said, “The proper role of government is to provide equal rights, not equal things” That said, why then does President Obama feel that he as the right to intervene on a matter involving one of his friends, just because he has legal experience? He needs to back away from the situation, allow the local law enforcement the ability to do there job and for the legal process to work.
This issue has nothing to do with race, or racial profiling; the bigger danger that is lurking with the situation is when the federal government thinks that it has the authority to over step states rights and state governments. The founding fathers understood this, and that’s why they called for local government, it is to keep the federal government in check, i.e. checks and balances. The real issue that I see is the current administration seeing how far they can get away with meddling in state affairs. When states allow this to happen, we will no longer be a sovereign nation, we will be under a dictatorship.
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So what’s the solution?
Give some specific examples that you are referring to when you accuse the federal gov’t of meddling in states affairs.
So you think President Obama has a problem with meddling in affairs he shouldn’t? Where was your outrage when former President Bush ran our country’s economy into ruin by spending trillions of dollars meddling in affairs overseas? Give me a break. If that’s the biggest gripe about Obama that you can come up with, and it’s obvious that’s all you are trying to do, then we aren’t in such bad shape after all.
Get over yourself patriot. The national debt was well in the trillions before Bush ever got into office, it wasnt all Bushs fault as most of you would like to believe. And your Obama is well on his way to contributing his share. I’d say equal to or more than anything Bush ever did to our economy.
Obama never should have involved himself in the Gates situation. Partly because he is friends with Gates and partly because its apparent Obama was very ill informed about the incident, as is much of America. Thats why Obama had to retract much of his initial statement and why Obama has had to basically give a mea culpa to the cop involved.
While I agree it would have been smarter for Obama to not have commented on this situation at all, I’m having a hard time figuring out how his expression of an opinion in the matter is a situation that involves federal authority usurping states rights, as the original post states. Straw-grabbers expected in 3, 2, 1. . .
Anyone who was a Bush supporter and criticizes Obama on this issue is a flaming hypocrite. Oregon lawfully passed an assisted suicide law that was voted in by the voters of the state and Bush admin stepped in using federal authority to override it. California voters lawfully passed a medicinal marijuana law and the Bush feds went in and started arresting those legally growing and selling marijuana for this purpose. Many more examples of the Bush admin upsurping states rights. Its fine to criticize one admin for doing this so long as your willing to admit the other wasn’t any better.
I hate to be such a downer but the fact of the matter is tha tthe REAL fear here is people such as yourselves making such a fuss over a comment the President made about a single incident. BIG FRIGGIN’ WHOOP! If you truly think that him making a comment or having an opinion is going to lead this country into a dictatorship…THAT is something to fear.
And just out of curiousity, why weren’t you ranting and raving when President Bush was summarily dismissing the Constitution and wiretapping AMERICAN CONVERSATIONS WITH AMERICANS, starting wars with false information (and killing thousands of AMERICANS in the process), and giving billion dollar no-bid contracts to the buddies of his VP who still gets a paycheck from them? THAT didn’t bother you?
Your biased griping about such trivial things (and ignoring important ones) can be summed up in one word…YAWN.
You get over yourself Anon. You don’t know what you are talking about.
I love this place!
Wow I didn’t think that you would respond to this, for the record, i did raise an issue with what the Bush admin did, i was not on this site at the time, that’s why you don’t see any comments about that admis.. That said, i still would have said what i did, reguardless of who the President is, and what party he is assicioated with.. Like i said, the read danger is when “we the people” allow government is allowed to dictate to us what is best for us.. We all need to wake up and start paying attention to what those that are elected are doing, maybe we should remind them who put them in office…
To IDT Guy…
I agree completely that we should pay attention to what our elected reps are doing. My comment was directed towards us paying attention to things that matter and not silly things like comments on a single event. Thing like…having the CEO’s of the top oil companies meet in secret with Cheney to draft the Bush Energy plan…or the RNC bringing cases against predominantly Democratic voting districs to restrict them from casting their votes IN THE LAST TWO GENERAL ELECTIONS…or how abut the 1,700,000 pages of the Federal Tax code that are by and large filled with one-off specific benefits for high contributors to officials from both parties?
As for dictating what’s best for us, let us remember that, more often than not, “we” choose foolishly and are in desperate need of some “common good” decisions.
And finally…let us remember that we are NOT a democracy, but a republic. For the uneducated, that means we do not make our choices, we elect those to make the choices for us. I point this out in response to your last comment, that we should “remind them who put them in office”. We do remind them, every election.
You know, there was ONE salient point that came from the Bush administration; their insidious “go to” comment everytime the administration would pull something so horrific and have no response when they were called on it…
“Elections have consequences”.
Elections do have consequesnces. Government is set up, “by the people and FOR the people.” it was not set up by the government and for the government. Yet that seems to be the norm now. That’s why a term is only four years, that’s why we do have the privlage of voting into office who will do the best for our country, and our communities. not the government and the world. The issue that i see is when “special intrests groups” start trying to sway the votes with promises of perks or kickbacks for the person that that is running, it’s always been said, “money talks and B.S walks.” I would like to think that our elected officials would have the peoples intrest as there top priority, wasn’t it them who put them in office in the first place? That’s why i beleive that we can get them out of office as well, or isn’t that our right.
The comment about ” closed door meetings” happens on BOTH sides of the isle.. the reason that some things that happend during the Bush admis, that you seem to disagree with, is due to majority rule, back then the republicans were the majority. Now it’s the demorcats that are in the majority.
So to get things passed the dems votes were not needed, like we are seeing now, yet Obama is seeing that he is needing the votes from the Republican party, due to his own party having issues with his own health care plan, what does that say, when your own party goes against you. Does it mean that more people, such as you and I are getting more involved with our government, and our seators are realizing that we are seeing what is going on and voicing our opinions?
Or is it that they are waking up to realize what direction the President is trying to take our country.
I want to know more about this so called secret meeting you spoke of. If you know about it, it obviously wasn’t a very big secret. Unless of course you’re an oil exec who has happened upon idahofallstoday, or maybe you could be Cheney’s long lost cousin?
I want to know more about this so called secret meeting you spoke of. If you know about it, it obviously wasn’t a very big secret. Unless of course you’re an oil exec who has happened upon idahofallstoday, or maybe you could be Cheney’s long lost cousin?
When have i ever refereanced a “secret meeting” and not to my knowledge am i a cousin of Cheney, don’t own any stock in oil, speaking of oil have you checked the price of oil a barrell, it’s $78.00 yet the price at the pump is dropping, explain that, why isn’t the media talking about that.?? Seems to me that you have something against Bush and Cheney.. do you need some counceling??
maybe you should have read the comment above yours idt, that would have clued you in on the secret meeting comment.
Thing like…having the CEO’s of the top oil companies meet in secret with Cheney to draft the Bush Energy plan…
So this is what you are reffering to,, well what’s the differance between that and the Dem’s voting on a bill at 11:59 PM knowing that it can’t be debated and it has to be passed before the end of the day.. Either side has it’s tricks up it’s sleeves. As my orginal post was about the President getting involved in a matter that he shouldn’t have, and now we are seeing and hearing the police reports, and how the caller NEVER said a thing about the persons race..
On the other hand, had it been an actuall break in, and no one called, racial profiling would have been a factor, because they would have blamed the police for NOT doing a thing about it, as i stated i feel that the underlying reason is to see how far the federal government can stick it’s nose in states affairs..
Again (and this will be my final comment on this thread), I am saying we should be wary of things that truly effect our citizens. Having the heads of Exxon/Mobil and Shell Oil directly write the Bush Admin’s Energy plan DID directly effect us.
But others participating on this topic want to go on about a comment the President made about a single incident, has since clarified, and was NEVER of any consequence…to anyone.
Oh and as for the meeting with the oil heads on the energy plan…while the meeting was eventually discovered, the minutes or details of the meeting have never been made public, as Mr. Cheney classified them under Presidential privelage. And if THAT doesn’t scare the hell out of you, then you really aren’t paying attention to anything of import.
The real problem is people like you equating such minor silly things with the end of America. Settle down chicken little, the sky is only falling on your head.
“…why then does President Obama feel that he as the right to intervene on a matter involving one of his friends, just because he has legal experience?”
I would like to hear about your outrage towards Blake Hall for intervening on behalf of Brooke Armstrong’s recent embezzlement sentencing, just because Hall has legal experience?
This happens all the time so you ought to protest all instances in both parties, or shut up about it.
I think Obama set a great example of how to settle differences the old fashioned way in a personal matter without resorting to lawsuits. Got a dispute? Invite your enemy out to beer and talk it over. You may not solve all the problems but it’s a great way to try.
To Guest responce, what you are missing is the “read betweeen the lines” analogy, what you are doing is taking this situation for face value, i don’t, that’s why i stated in my orginal post that this is nothing more than the government seeing how far they can meddle in state affairs, Sorry you are such a Bush hater, this issue has nothing to do with what party the president belongs to, i would have said the same thing if it was McCain, that was pulling these tricks and testing the waters, like Obama IS doing..
And Obama only did the beer meeting because he realized he stuck his foot in his mouth by calling the white cop stupid. And at the risk of sounding racist himself, only then did he propose the beer meeting. Afterall who is going to decline having a beer with the president of the united states, no matter who he is or what party hes affiliated with.
I agree Guest2, the beer meeting was a simple way to just acknowledge his “oops”, and now it should just go away and we can move on to more important things.
I’d have beer with this president, but only for the chance to spit in his dirty, lying face and stir some up.
So what was Nancy doing in the house while the “White house beer summit” was going on, you might want to check and see what bills or amendments were being hammered out, while the “White house beer summit” was taking place…
To me this was nothing more than a smoke and mirrors trick, to get the people disracted while deals were being made…
Was Sluggo there too?
I was under the impression that the “summit” was only a half hour long.
If anything governmental was accomplished in that small span of time, maybe we need more “beer summits”.
cmon, we all know Nancy Pelosi was there providing the body shots.
ewwwww….sorry that was just wrong.
cmon, we all know Nancy Pelosi was there providing the body shots.
ewwwww….sorry that was just wrong.
Now that just leaves a image in your mind,… ewwww
Wonder if she used a lime…..
eewwww is right!
LOL
Ewwww is right!! But sooo funny!
You’re chance of having a beer with Obama are nil, Marcus.
You would rather coop in your Fortress of Solitude and play video games, anyway.
I’d say everybody posting here has a chance of right around nil to do anything with the president…
I like my fortress…
I hardly ever repost excerpts from my blog, but you jokers deserve this.
“I’m starting to get rubbed really wrong by our new force blended society. People of all races should feel like the hard veggies that have to be forced into high powered blenders to get them chewed up and spat out in a thick unrecognizable concoction called mixed veggie juice.
The juice we’re being turned into is the greatest insult that could be given to any of our ancestors. That’s ancestors of all races. In our governments attempt to do away with racial superiority, they’re also setting out to destroy the cultural identities of every race in our country.
You don’t believe it? Look at the American Indian. The whites set out to purge the land of them. When they were almost gone, we decided to turn the remaining few into cultural white men, just Christian farmers with dark skin. Most of the Indians that didn’t comply were killed and their culture and ceremonies died with them.
Now, blacks, whites, cops, academics, common men, and high powered bureaucrats are happily drinking beer in the same room, searching for a “teaching moment.” Where were the Hispanics, Asians, and Muslims? Why didn’t they have an invitation to the beer party? There could have been a lot of juice made if all parties concerned had been fed into the hopper.
Or are we just dealing with blacks and whites here? If we are, Mr. Obama has some problems looming on his horizons because he made big promises to other minorities to get their support so he could beat the great white machine. What’s he going to do when the changes he promised don’t come, when low income blacks are joined by the Hispanics, Asians, and Muslims?
How’s he going to deal with fires when that get lit in LA, Chicago, Detroit, Dallas, Miami, Cleveland, New York, and Atlanta because the minorities he made promises to aren’t happy with the fact that he’s not coming across for them? They’re going to be screwing up his atmosphere, all of them burning at the same time, just because his agenda doesn’t match up with his promises.
Unfortunately the thing that we’re dealing with here resembles a 1973 Charlton Heston movie called Soylent Green, where Charlton discovered that the biggest food provider in the country was making it’s new green food bars out of people who had died. In fact the Soylent company was helping them along to their death so they could be made into food bars a little sooner than would have been natural. So, after he found the truth, Charlton ended the movie escaping the Soylent plant screaming, “Soylent Green is people, Soylent Green is people!”
When you realize you’ve been forced into and oozed out of Obama’s high powered grinder, take a look at yourself in your inner mirror. You’re going to find that you’re telling yourself that you think and feel a lot differently than you used to think and feel. You’ll have a sense that life is different and better today, but you won’t know why you think that. You won’t be able to look into that inner mirror long before you hear a sweet voice coming from the TV or the radio saying it wasn’t my fault, I inherited this problem, and it’s going to take me longer than 6 months to fix it. Your faith will be restored. Next year we’ll be hearing that it’s going to take him longer than 18 months to fix it.
We have become Obama Grey. Obama Gray is people, and we are it. Tell that to everyone you know. Obama gray is people, and we are it. Stay out of his grinder or lose your cultural identity too. Above all else, quit drinking that damn gray veggie juice.”
I am having difficulty following your logic. For one thing, Obama has only been in office for less than 8 months. You want him to undo in that time when Dubya had 8 years to really mess us up? I don’t know what it is going to be like in another 6 months or in a year from now. I don’t have a crystal ball. I figured it would take someone at least 2 years to start undoing the damage wrought by Dubya. Is Obama the right person? I hope so, but only time will tell.
I hate to see people lose their cultural identity. But what I hope for is that people no longer see the different color of skin.
The beer drinking session that seems to have you so upset was the people involved settling a problem that they had. No one else was involved. I thought it was great that they settled the problem like that and kept the courts and lawyers out of it. Obama was “man enough” to admit that he had made a mistake when he made his comment and should have stayed out of it. Hopefully what could have turned into a major issue has been resolved among the parties involved. Why should the Hispanics, Asians and Muslims been there? They were not involved.
Are you upset because we have a black man in the White House? Are you upset because a hispanic lady now sits on the Supreme Court?
In our governments attempt to do away with racial superiority,
sounds like you like racial superiority
Now isn’t that special?
One offers a good critique that’s based on poor reading skills, then writes a repetition of exactly what I said the sweet voice would be saying from the TV or radio to stop your looking into the inner mirror for too long, keeping you from asking yourself any more pressing questions about how things really are going for you now.
That voice jumped right into your ear and cranked up the volume didn’t it Idaho Native? Or maybe you didn’t take that moment to gaze into the inner mirror to begin with?
The second response was just lame.
What really needs interjected here is Barrack’s own statement in a couple different TV interviews where he mention that if there really was a blue pill and it cost half as much wouldn’t it make sense to take it?
For those who don’t remember, blue pill / red pill refers to the Matrix movie. If Neo took the blue pill he stayed in the matrix where the government controlled everything about his life. If he took the red pill, he learned the truth and became a free man.
I have a youtube vid of it on my blog and will post a link to it. I really don’t like the quality of it so much, it’s mixed between a Matrix cut and a couple Obama Press releases but when you get past the volume and light differences between the Matrix segments and the sync problem in the first Obama segment, it should give you something to laugh about.
http://strucksilent.com/?p=389
Before the “Obama is Gawd” people get their backs all up in the air, realize, I voted for the man too. But face it, he is not god, he is making some outrageous mistakes, and he has a veritable herd of followers accusing everyone who dares oppose their shining statue as being a ditto head.
Screw blaming Bush, at this point criticism of Obama has as much to do with Bush as it does with President Jackson or President Hoover. They do not apply. Find another whipping boy to blame for why Obama is being allowed a freehand to set policies that have the potential to turn our economy upside down for the next 50 years. Try blaming Obama.
Now go enjoy the Obama Blues vid and laugh for a change, Some of you blue lipped liberals need a good laugh.
sorry for the ‘lame’ response, just a quick word on what i read
sorry you feel upset and defensive
I like how you get pegged as a racist when you state dislike for a person with a point of view solely because that person comes with a brown tint. Only a racist would disagree with that brownie. What a damn racist.
I have news for you.
marcus
i bet u have the anarchists cookbook in your house.
judging by all your ramblings you are a damn right wing
extremist verging on downright anarchist.
The comment you made about instead of drinking beer with
the president you would be spitting in his face, you definitely
shows signs of being a potential domestic terrorist. Hopefully the FBI
are keeping tabs on you, and maybe some day you ll be hauled in by them, and we wont have to listen to your pathetic ramblings.
that would make a great christmas gift for me
LOL
The Anarchist’s Cookbook is so outdated.
Let the FBI keep tabs on me. I don’t do anything illegal. If they take me in, you’ll know that its gotten really out of hand and you best be prepared for the worst.
Right wing extremist? Anarchist? I think not.
Realist.
LOL @ me
If Marcus is a domestic terrorist, I’m Santa Claus!
Ho Ho Ho
i said he has the potential to be one, and i would love him to be hauled in
me, move on why dont you. Youve already been asked by the moderator to abide by the rules in two other posts . Rule 4 states no personal attacks, name calling, put downs or baiting other guests. Its real simple. If you dont like somebodys point of view ignore them.
where was i told by the moderator, please enlighten me. and as for marcus apparently he can bait and put down all he wants, but apparently it’s ok for him to do that.! That’s a one way street
Idaho Falls Today! Comment # 23 by Marcus on August 5, 2009 @ 4:46 am
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I’d have beer with this president, but only for the chance to spit in his dirty, lying face and stir some up.
Idaho Falls Today! Comment # 21 by Marcus on August 10, 2009 @ 2:27 pm
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Get rid of insurance, both private and government pushed.
shall i retract my words and say what a great american citizen he is?
Its not my job to enlighten you. You know which topics you posted in, go back and read them and you’ll see where the moderator edited your comments.
You obviously can’t read rule number 4. It’s talking about putting down and baiting other GUESTS not the president.
And whats your problem with comment 21? getting rid of insurance bothers you? lol
Marcus…… POOF!
You should tell the joke now, you’ve already used the punch line.
I don’t get it me….The comments you used as examples are Marcus’s person opinions, not attacks on you. Are you the President of the United States?
I found a flaw.
Low income Asians. It’ll never happen.
I am a great American citizen. I pay all of my bills / taxes on time. In addition, I help carry the load that shitty American citizens fail to carry themselves.
I think that makes me a pretty great American. Though, given the chance, I’d drop the slackers and make them fend for themselves.
Yeah Marcus, cook us up some of that “anarchy pot stew”, would you?
I don’t get it reader. What does that mean?
Base – read comment #40
On second thought Marcus, how ’bout some anarchy BBQ this summer?
Does me know Marcus? I still don’t get it.
I love BBQs! I can bring something.
You know, I did want to put a barbeque together this summer…any ideas for a time and place?
“Does me know Marcus? I still don’t get it.” I highly doubt it.
Several have talked about an IFZ get together but nothing ever pans. We could all wear cute decorated bags on our heads to hide identities. I’ll bring the ‘rita mix.
Marcus does have some excellent points. We, too, are sick and tired of taking care of the slackers in our nation. When are the lowlifes and leaches going to do something for themselves, instead of waiting around with their hands out yelling “but I’m entitled to free health care, employments, and all the cigs and painkillers the gov’t can fund for me!!”
I sure don’t have a problem with helping honest Joe trying hard to support himself or his family. It’s the insanity of a lazy man and woman expecting Obama to take care of them without a lick of effort on their end. I think that’s where Marcus and others off this site get around to “natural selection” discussions, as in the health care thread.
Exactly. I’ll teach “Honest Joe” how to work and live, but I’ll be damned if I fund his excessive sleep habit and his medical care.
I too am sick of slackers expecting us to take care of them with our taxes. I am totally in agreement with marcus. I would go further and suggest that the health insurance companies refuse to insure the mentally challenged and those with dementia, and babies born severely handicapped that they have no potential for a meaningful life. Also i would refuse health insurance to the morbidly obese who stuff themselves with big macs. Action like this needs to be taken to bring down health costs for the rest of the functioning people.
Natural selection is the only way to benefit mankind.
oops i posted this in the wrong dicussion
I have no problem getting together face to face and owning up to my words. It would be an experience for sure. I’m sure we all have each other pegged as this or that. I’m sure it would be surprising.
There have been many times in my life that I have taken “Honest Joe” in off of the streets and taught him a thing or two about life. Sometimes I have failed and others I have succeeded. I just don’t want to be FORCED to give to Junkie Jane and her twelve children. From my experience it doesn’t work.
I do and have done my fair share of charity work and good deeds. I have done anything from throwing a smile to a stranger to helping someone down and out find employment. I have even taken a few people into my home in the past to teach them how to work hard and earn what they have. I have a feeling that many on this website have done the same. It would be interesting to find out and talk about it in a large group face to face.
If I had my way nobody would have health insurance. Not singling out any group here friend.
My theory is that, with less willing hands to fill Mr. Doctor’s pockets, rates would decrease in an effort to build a larger customer base. Competitive pricing would enter the health care arena, and patients would have choices and keep more of their hard earned dollars in the bank.
So, rather than insuring all of the ingrates along with the few gems that really need it, let’s reject insurance (both public and private) as a whole and bring health care back to an affordable level in a competitive market. We don’t even need the government to do it for us! Just call up your insurance agent and tell him where to stick it! While you’re at it, call up your local congressmen and senators and tell them the same.
well as we do have health insurance, i think currently it would be better do what i say and drop non functioning members of society from health insurance.
Personally despite the cons of the insurance companies, i know i couldnt pay 60000 plus out of my pocket for an illness or accident, or maybe pay 100000 if god forbid i injured someone badly in an accident, or or 120000 if my house burned down. I appreciate having insurance, but i say let’s get rid of the members of society who will permanently be a drain on it, thus putting the cost up for others
Newsflash. With or without insurance you’ll be paying out the ass for an illness or accident. You have a monthly premium to continue paying, and depending on what your ailment is your out of pocket cost can be astronomical. The rates are the problem, and they won’t go down as long as insurance is around.
Just take the next step on the forum here crusader and change your name to something like Genocide George.
i much prefer the rates, especially subsidized by the employer than paying who knows what for a major illness. I think that i should have the choice to insure myself. I just hate the members of society who are incapacitated mentally or whatever for life, sucking all the money up
Wow crusader…
Evidently you’re dense.
If you don’t have insurance and need treatment, you negotiate a rate with the doctor for a more affordable procedure. This more affordable procedure is still too damn expensive.
If you have insurance and need treatment, your ability to negotiate a rate is thrown out the window. The doctor’s cost is increased due to upkeep of staffing who’s sole purpose is to process insurance claims. The rate is increased to accommodate this function, and it is increased further because the insurance companies will pay it. In the end, you are left with a rate comparable to not holding insurance at all, and you still have to pay your insurance premium while sticking to a payment plan for the work done.
SO, reduce costs across the board and get rid of insurance. Fire the claims processing staff, and make the doctor focus on quality (to make and retain customers / patients) and efficiency (to provide a lower rate than the competition).
A decent example of this is actually just about any pharmacy you go to. For a generic prescription that costs less than your copay, the pharmacy (in most cases) will jack up the out of pocket cost to you to match your copay, as well as sticking an extra cost to the insurance company. Sounds illegal to me, but I’m no expert…just the smartest man in the world posting on a small town blog.
lol