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		<title>By: reader</title>
		<link>http://www.idahofallstoday.com/2009/07/24/police-abuse-what-should-we-do-when-it-happens-here/#comment-33287</link>
		<dc:creator>reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Current cop&quot; - come on, stick it out.   You don&#039;t give up against your local dirtbag, do you? So don&#039;t let a few new idiots here scare you away.  It waxes and wanes over time, you&#039;ll see.   Keep on coming back, I know I&#039;m not the only one who appreciates a variety of opinion here, as long as they are presented with a touch of maturity.  Hope you stay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Current cop&#8221; &#8211; come on, stick it out.   You don&#8217;t give up against your local dirtbag, do you? So don&#8217;t let a few new idiots here scare you away.  It waxes and wanes over time, you&#8217;ll see.   Keep on coming back, I know I&#8217;m not the only one who appreciates a variety of opinion here, as long as they are presented with a touch of maturity.  Hope you stay.</p>
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		<title>By: Base</title>
		<link>http://www.idahofallstoday.com/2009/07/24/police-abuse-what-should-we-do-when-it-happens-here/#comment-33265</link>
		<dc:creator>Base</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OOOO--Bold words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OOOO&#8211;Bold words.</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
		<link>http://www.idahofallstoday.com/2009/07/24/police-abuse-what-should-we-do-when-it-happens-here/#comment-33262</link>
		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh you didnt find that humorous, i guess a lot of the people out there who call the law enforcement by other names are offensive too.
guest are you one of the chosen ones that patrol the streets of idaho falls....all that heavy workload.....the cops here should go to new york and LA, maybe then they could earn their pay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh you didnt find that humorous, i guess a lot of the people out there who call the law enforcement by other names are offensive too.<br />
guest are you one of the chosen ones that patrol the streets of idaho falls&#8230;.all that heavy workload&#8230;..the cops here should go to new york and LA, maybe then they could earn their pay</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 04:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you heard the latest?  IFPD will be cracking down on, get this, crosswalk violators.  Channel 6 reports that undercover officers will be staking out crosswalks all around the city for the next couple months and ticketing crosswalk violators.  Some say we should be extremely happy about this.  Our sleepy little town obviously has no real crime going on if we&#039;ve got the money and manpower to dedicate officers to specifically watch crosswalks.  Nice to see our tax dollars hard at work cracking down on such blatant criminal activity.  
Three cheers for the IFPD!  hip hip huu..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you heard the latest?  IFPD will be cracking down on, get this, crosswalk violators.  Channel 6 reports that undercover officers will be staking out crosswalks all around the city for the next couple months and ticketing crosswalk violators.  Some say we should be extremely happy about this.  Our sleepy little town obviously has no real crime going on if we&#8217;ve got the money and manpower to dedicate officers to specifically watch crosswalks.  Nice to see our tax dollars hard at work cracking down on such blatant criminal activity.<br />
Three cheers for the IFPD!  hip hip huu..</p>
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		<title>By: Current cop</title>
		<link>http://www.idahofallstoday.com/2009/07/24/police-abuse-what-should-we-do-when-it-happens-here/#comment-33254</link>
		<dc:creator>Current cop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 04:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been a reader and poster on this site for over 2 years.  I have tried to contribute to the discussion in an honest and thoughtful way.  I will no longer participate in this site.  I have asked that the sites editors remove offensive and profane posts and other simple requests and have been ignored.  Joe you should run a cleaner show.  This site has become a juvenile playground and I don&#039;t want to play.  OUT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been a reader and poster on this site for over 2 years.  I have tried to contribute to the discussion in an honest and thoughtful way.  I will no longer participate in this site.  I have asked that the sites editors remove offensive and profane posts and other simple requests and have been ignored.  Joe you should run a cleaner show.  This site has become a juvenile playground and I don&#8217;t want to play.  OUT!</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
		<link>http://www.idahofallstoday.com/2009/07/24/police-abuse-what-should-we-do-when-it-happens-here/#comment-33231</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it was funny.</description>
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		<title>By: reader</title>
		<link>http://www.idahofallstoday.com/2009/07/24/police-abuse-what-should-we-do-when-it-happens-here/#comment-33221</link>
		<dc:creator>reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Me&quot; is a little immature lately in his/her posts, anyone notice?  Me - try to have adult conversation with the rest of us, kiddo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Me&#8221; is a little immature lately in his/her posts, anyone notice?  Me &#8211; try to have adult conversation with the rest of us, kiddo.</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
		<link>http://www.idahofallstoday.com/2009/07/24/police-abuse-what-should-we-do-when-it-happens-here/#comment-33219</link>
		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, Please remove post # 77 as offensive!</description>
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		<title>By: me</title>
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		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 08:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(comment edited by site admin.  me, please abide by the community guidelines.)
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		<title>By: TrueBlue</title>
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		<dc:creator>TrueBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 07:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CR67 just got pwnd.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.idahofallstoday.com/2009/07/24/police-abuse-what-should-we-do-when-it-happens-here/#comment-33193</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 05:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.co.bonneville.id.us/911/calls.html

Looks like they haven&#039;t updated their site since January of 2008 but for that month the IFPD handled 5441 incidents.  Now I did notice that nearly 500 of those were messages to the officer.   And I&#039;m sure a few others here and there weren&#039;t actual calls.  But you do easily have 4000+ calls for service and traffic stops that month.  And January is a slow time of year relative to the summer when its busy.     Traffic stops also pick up in the summer as the bad roads in the winter tend to keep people&#039;s speed down.    And this is just the IFPD by the way, you can see the BCSO&#039;s stats elsewhere at the same address.</description>
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<p>Looks like they haven&#8217;t updated their site since January of 2008 but for that month the IFPD handled 5441 incidents.  Now I did notice that nearly 500 of those were messages to the officer.   And I&#8217;m sure a few others here and there weren&#8217;t actual calls.  But you do easily have 4000+ calls for service and traffic stops that month.  And January is a slow time of year relative to the summer when its busy.     Traffic stops also pick up in the summer as the bad roads in the winter tend to keep people&#8217;s speed down.    And this is just the IFPD by the way, you can see the BCSO&#8217;s stats elsewhere at the same address.</p>
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		<title>By: CR67</title>
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		<dc:creator>CR67</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 02:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really doubt there are 200 traffic stops a day in Idaho Falls. (let alone 300+ total calls in IF)   Where are you getting these statistics Anonymous comment 71?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really doubt there are 200 traffic stops a day in Idaho Falls. (let alone 300+ total calls in IF)   Where are you getting these statistics Anonymous comment 71?</p>
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		<title>By: Onewhoknows</title>
		<link>http://www.idahofallstoday.com/2009/07/24/police-abuse-what-should-we-do-when-it-happens-here/#comment-33188</link>
		<dc:creator>Onewhoknows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the Officer Lewis in the Shelley incident the same Lewis who used to work the IFPD and then went to work for Shelley after resigning from the IFPD to avoid disciplinary action for an excessive force incident?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the Officer Lewis in the Shelley incident the same Lewis who used to work the IFPD and then went to work for Shelley after resigning from the IFPD to avoid disciplinary action for an excessive force incident?</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
		<link>http://www.idahofallstoday.com/2009/07/24/police-abuse-what-should-we-do-when-it-happens-here/#comment-33184</link>
		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i really doubt 99.9 statistic very much.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 02:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re:post 69

As mentioned at any given time there are about 1,000,000 cops nationwide.    And that number is constantly in flux as some retire, others resign, others get fired, and replacements come in.     Idaho Falls PD handles on average over 100 calls for service a day and probably makes twice that many traffic stops.   Thats 300+ contacts a day in just the IFPD alone.  Nationwide there are going to be tens of millions of calls / traffic stops every day.   No one, not even cops, deny there will be bad events as cops are just human with human faults and it would be utterly naive to think that all 1,000,000 were good all the time.   As I said earlier in the thread though there are actually very few bad incidents considering the tens of millions of calls per day.   That means well over 99.99% of the time the cops are doing a good job.   

One other thing - some of your stories mentioned lawsuits settled and thats really meaningless.  Often its cheaper for governments, just like it is for businesses, to buy off (i.e. settle with) a plaintiff than pay years of attorneys fees to fight off the frivolous claim.    Obviously some were valid but just as many were by sue happy people.</description>
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<p>As mentioned at any given time there are about 1,000,000 cops nationwide.    And that number is constantly in flux as some retire, others resign, others get fired, and replacements come in.     Idaho Falls PD handles on average over 100 calls for service a day and probably makes twice that many traffic stops.   Thats 300+ contacts a day in just the IFPD alone.  Nationwide there are going to be tens of millions of calls / traffic stops every day.   No one, not even cops, deny there will be bad events as cops are just human with human faults and it would be utterly naive to think that all 1,000,000 were good all the time.   As I said earlier in the thread though there are actually very few bad incidents considering the tens of millions of calls per day.   That means well over 99.99% of the time the cops are doing a good job.   </p>
<p>One other thing &#8211; some of your stories mentioned lawsuits settled and thats really meaningless.  Often its cheaper for governments, just like it is for businesses, to buy off (i.e. settle with) a plaintiff than pay years of attorneys fees to fight off the frivolous claim.    Obviously some were valid but just as many were by sue happy people.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 02:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: comment #52

City officers who live in town pay $25.00 a month for their take home cars.   Officers who live out of town pay more based on how many miles away they are.  Some pay as much as $80.00 a month.    As was mentioned, take home cars are the standard for the majority of departments nowadays as its actually cheaper for the departments to have take home cars for the officers as the cars last four to five times longer than they do being driven 24/7.  And officers are accountable now for the damage where its hard to pin damage to an officer when its a fleet car being shared by multiple officers.     So again as has been mentioned, the IFPD is not gaining some extrordinary benefit over other departments, they are merely getting a similar benefit.</description>
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<p>City officers who live in town pay $25.00 a month for their take home cars.   Officers who live out of town pay more based on how many miles away they are.  Some pay as much as $80.00 a month.    As was mentioned, take home cars are the standard for the majority of departments nowadays as its actually cheaper for the departments to have take home cars for the officers as the cars last four to five times longer than they do being driven 24/7.  And officers are accountable now for the damage where its hard to pin damage to an officer when its a fleet car being shared by multiple officers.     So again as has been mentioned, the IFPD is not gaining some extrordinary benefit over other departments, they are merely getting a similar benefit.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been following the National Police Misconduct Research Project&#039;s (InjusticeEverywhere.com) bad cop news stories at

http://www.twitter.com/injusticenews 

for a couple of weeks now and let me tell you it is disturbing how many criminals there are with a badge and the power of the state behind them. What&#039;s being done about this?</description>
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<p><a href="http://www.twitter.com/injusticenews" rel="nofollow">http://www.twitter.com/injusticenews</a> </p>
<p>for a couple of weeks now and let me tell you it is disturbing how many criminals there are with a badge and the power of the state behind them. What&#8217;s being done about this?</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Four shots from a nine millimeter did more than put it to sleep.  Shelley cops have nothing better to do in their podunk little town.  It&#039;s bad enough they hide behind bldgs and bushes waiting to clock you driving 4 miles over the speed limit, or they pull you over for no reason if youre driving through town after 1am, they harrass the local teens and now this.  Time to clean house over there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Four shots from a nine millimeter did more than put it to sleep.  Shelley cops have nothing better to do in their podunk little town.  It&#8217;s bad enough they hide behind bldgs and bushes waiting to clock you driving 4 miles over the speed limit, or they pull you over for no reason if youre driving through town after 1am, they harrass the local teens and now this.  Time to clean house over there.</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely think protocol should have been to take the dog to the vet before taking it upon themselves to &quot;put it to sleep&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely think protocol should have been to take the dog to the vet before taking it upon themselves to &#8220;put it to sleep&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems almost like a firing squad eh?</description>
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