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Repo gone horribly wrong.

by Alice on April 8, 2009

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Peter Estay Senior and his son Peter Michael Estay were both scheduled to be sentenced. But things didn’t go as planned.

http://www.kidk.com/news/42561432.html

I just read this article on the KIDK website. Having known people that reposessed cars for a living, it seems that if the Lyles had their papers in order and had contacted the sheriff’s department before they attempted the reposession, they should have the law on their side. I do realize that repo people get hit and shot at, but I would think that they would still be protected by law. These people were assaulted and the law doesn’t seem to be helping them much.

I’m curious to know if there are things about this story that aren’t apparent. I’ve been reading about it since it first happened, but I do realize that we don’t always get the whole story.

Any input?

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1 my4sons April 10, 2009 at 1:02 pm

Is there a reaon why the police no longer show up for assistance when these repo’s happen?

Are there just so many, that the police can no longer offer their assistance? Or is it a matter of “better things to do?”

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2 AppleJack April 10, 2009 at 1:38 pm

Police don’t usually show up for the reposession of vehicles these days, 1. because their are just too many repos to deal with, and 2. most people who know their that far behind on their payments are going to try and hide their vehicle anyways which is why most repo men come looking for said vehicle in the middle of the night.
I can’t say I wouldn’t have done the same thing if I caught someone stealing my car, but these guys were well aware that their car was being repoed and not stolen by a couple of punks out for a joy ride. They went entirely too far in the attack on these people who where just out doing their job. Hopefully justice will be served here. I think I’d be finding another line of work.

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3 Anonymous April 12, 2009 at 6:13 pm

Here is the real reason police don’t show up from someone who actually knows the answer and isn’t just speculating as the two prior posters have done.

There are two general types of law: criminal and civil law. Police are only empowered to enforce criminal law and its very important to remember that. In the area of civil law police officers have no more authority than the average citizen. Repo’s fall under the jurisidiction of civil law and as such police are not empowered to enforce them. If police assisted in repo’s it would effectively mean they are enforcing a civil law which would be all kinds of illegal because by state code police are not allowed to enforce civil law.

The only time police get involved in repos is if the repo goes bad like the one in this case did.

The difference between civil law and criminal law can be confusing to the lay person. But as a rule of thumb, with a few exceptions, anything involving contracts (this is where repos come in), landlord / tenant relations, divorces, custody issues, workplace regulations, and sexual harassment all are civil and the police cannot legally get involved. Sometimes a criminal violation will occur during a dispute over civil law, like the repo in this case, and only then can the police do anything.

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