Idaho Falls will be hosting its very own Great American Tea Party on Wednesday, April 15, 6:30-8:00pm at 490 Memorial Drive, just outside Senator Mike Crapo’s office. The purpose is to protest massive spending and taxation by the federal government.
The event will feature speeches, a walk to the nearby Veterans’ Memorial, and a ceremonial “tea dump” in the Snake River. Participants are expected from all over SE Idaho.
Rest assured that Senator Crapo’s office is supportive of the event, the building owners have given permission (because the event is held after hours), and Idaho Falls Police state no permit is needed.
For more information, contact organizer Andi Elliott at 208.662.5808, or celliott@yahoo.com.
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Halli – Thanks for the post on the activity. I like the date, TAX day – very appropriate.
I understand that similar “Tea Parties” are taking place eslewhere, what group is sponsoring or organizing this?
It’s about time! Why is it that people think that the original Boston Tea Party was a good move, because of the taxes they were protesting, but have a hard time with this one, when we pay a much greater percentage in taxes than they did to England?
And before you can say that they didn’t have as many services provided to them, let me say that we shouldn’t have as many “services” provided for us.
To whomever set this up, CONGRATULATIONS! Thank you for showing us a way to protest this insane amount of money being spent, and do it peacefully.
See, you don’t need guns to get your point across.
You folks realize the original Boston Tea party was in protest of a cut in taxes, don’t you? Pretty ironic, if you ask me.
In addition, I had a good giggle every time I heard you folks call yourselves ‘teabaggers’. I don’t think you knew what that term means!
I haven’t heard reference to any of “us folks” say anything in regards to being “teabaggers”.
At least you’re good at amusing yourself.
Tax cuts for the East India Company acted as a catalyst, but you cut out the real problem when you simply state that tax cuts were the reason that it all went down.
There was quite a bit of civil unrest around the idea of a government in another hemisphere running things in colonial America when there was no representation for those residing in the colonies. Everything was being decided by the Brits. Taxes broke the camel’s back pretty much. No taxation without representation and all that jazz.
I suggest you study up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party
I understand the idea of a “tea party”, but I can’t quite get behind it. You may not have personally voted this current round of fools into office, but other American citizens did. We have our representation, we placed our votes, and the majority rules. We have our representation.
If you want to make a difference, run for office or vote for somebody that you can get behind. A “Great American Tea Party” isn’t going to change anything.
http://russell.gresham.k12.or.us/Colonial_America/Boston_Tea_Party.html
By Jerod, Saul, and Max
Over two hundred years ago an event occurred called the Boston Tea Party.This all started on a raw night of December the 16th,1773. A group of citizens called the ”Sons of Liberty” led by Samuel Adams, Protested against the tax on tea which was in ported to the colonies because the tax was too high. Samuel Adams took his protesters disguised lightly as Native Americans to the three tea ships that were anchored at Boston Harbor. There the citizens led by Samuel Adams threw 342 chests of tea over board into the Boston Harbor,because a man called Thomas Hutchinson would not let the ships return back to England with the chests of tea.
In 1774 the Boston Port Act was established. The Boston Port Act was established so that the protesters of Boston would be punished for the destruction of the 342 chests of tea.The way the protesters of Boston were punished for this act was the people of Boston would have to be billed for the destruction of the tea, and the bill would include virtual closing of the Boston Harbor. The Boston Port Act was one of the measures that led to the calling of the first Continental Congress.
Our Taxes are too high. Ooh Child Comment #4 I think you need to get your facts straight. I have also done quite a bit of research on your comment about teabaggers. Not at any point and time do these people refer to themselves as teabaggers. Get your head out of the gutter.
In this case there is no one group involved – it’s more like a loose conglomeration of like-minded citizens. Andi Elliott is the instigator.
Sometimes people just come together because of an idea that appeals to them.
My4Sons, I’m curious about the comment : “you don’t need guns to get your point across”. Can you explain?
In previous blogs there have been comments on “right wing wackos”, I belive they called it, wanting to always assume that they had to solve things with guns. I was just trying to reinforce a previous statement that I had made saying that things can be resolved without guns.
Yay for weekend patriotism and prime-time outrage! Oh, and polluting the river is a GREAT way to protest government spending.
Pollution is a good thing.
I doubt they’ll be dumping enough “tea” into the river to pollute it. Afterall it’s a “ceremonial dumping”. That reminds me of a ceremonial…..oh nevermind!
Seems like a futile gesture in reality, but it sounds like a great way to vent frustrations, and that makes it worth it in my book!
“The Tea Act was an Act of the Parliament of Great Britain (13 Geo III c. 44, long title An act to allow a drawback of the duties of customs on the exportation of tea to any of his Majesty’s colonies or plantations in America; to increase the deposit on bohea tea to be sold at the East India Company’s sales; and to empower the commissioners of the treasury to grant licences to the East India Company to export tea duty-free.), passed on May 10, 1773.
Previously, the East India Company had been required to sell its tea exclusively in London on which it paid a duty which averaged two shillings and six pence per pound.[1] The East India Company would now be allowed to export its tea directly to the colonies without paying the taxes it was paying in London “to export such tea to any of the British colonies or plantations in America, or to foreign parts, discharged from the payment of any customs or duties whatsoever”, and instead only required to pay the Townshend import duty of three pence a pound.[1]
This Act was intended to aid the company’s finances, which were close to collapse because it was paying the British government 400,000 pounds per year, war and famine in India, and economic weakness in European markets. Benjamin Franklin proposed to the British government the idea of eliminating the tax on tea as a way to help the East India Company.[1] Britain expected the colonists to be happy to be paying less for their tea.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Act
I think someone isn’t up on history as much they think they are. The Tea Party was protesting the Tea Act, which as you can see was a tax cut. Get it? A ‘drawback of duties & customs’ is a tax cut.
And yes, they don’t refer to themselves as ‘teabaggers’ anymore – they stopped calling themselves that once it was pointed out to them what the term actually meant. That’s why I wrote my comment in the past tense – most of the protest sites quickly scrubbed their texts of the term, so I can’t have my little giggles anymore.
Oh well – there’s plenty of other things to amuse me, such as the current misunderstanding of the Tea Act that prompted the whole Boston Tea Party business.
Keep it up guys – I’m lovin’ it!
Reading comprehension not your thing ooh_child? Not surprising.
I love when someone does a Wiki search on a topic and then suddenly becomes a professor on said topic all the while putting down others who merely wish to express themselves & their opinions at this tea party event.
yes, people voted these goverment officials in… but in many cases their representation is not truely representitive of their constituants. As soon as many of them get in office (any political party mind you) they change their tune and start doing things only to advance their political careers or for their own benefit.
That is what I would be protesting. Taxation without deliberate representation.
My post was primarily for the benefit of my4sons, Marcus, not you. Altough I’m sure there are plenty of others who have the same misunderstanding of history as my4sons has.
Reading comprehension just fine over here – maybe you need to check your own self importance & adjust as necessary.
I am pretty self important
. I was mostly just a bit irritated that you still didn’t recognize that tax cuts weren’t the cause of the event…still am to tell you the truth.
I’m on the same page April. Not trying to knock anybody that’s attending the tea party.
I just want to attend to have tea & crumpets.
A post the other day was on the mark. Halli Stone posting her rants here because nobody reads her own blog.
Mike Crapo only care about making money for his PAC, as for the “Building Owners” Blake Hall is a left wing idiot, even when he’s sober. Tax Cuts For The Rich and Corporate! the battle cray of the Republicans.
my4sons-
Using a Middle School in Oregon as a reference, with kids as authors isn’t the best historical source.
The reason for the Boston Tea Party was the tax was levied on the American colonials only, and the colonies had no representation in the British Parliament.
As British citizens, the colonists had none of the say in their taxes other citizens had. The colonies didn’t object to the taxes- they objected to the lack of representation. Understand the difference?
I see nothing wrong with local citizens participating in this activity either.
I am greatful that there is a peaceful and organized event for them to vent their frustrations with the government’s over spending. I wish there were more such opportunities for people.
And no, I don’t believe a small bit of tea will harm the river.
http://www.essortment.com/all/bostonteaparty_rotm.htm
http://www.boston-tea-party.org/in-depth.html
I apologize for using the last website. I was in a hurry, and furious over ooh childs indiferent view on things. Ooh child if you are living in CA, leave us in ID alone. I do not have a misunderstanding of history.
Did you know that the East India Company had many backers and investors in the British Parliament? Did you know that they were enforcing these taxes so that they themselves would be able to save themselves from financial ruin?
Maybe you should check out your history, and if my knowledge is lacking, all I can say is that I am a product of public school.
Cali bloggers wouldn’t put up with her bs thats why she peddles her propaganda here.
Hee hee… you guys are funny!
I lived in IF for many years. I’m also a product of the IF educational system – attended junior high & high school there. Seems like the public schools were much better at preparing critical thinkers back then.
I don’t see a rule anywhere on this site that states it’s only for people who still live in IF. I post at a lot of different sites – not just here.
Get used to me – I’m not going anywhere, sweetie!
Ooh child (whatever that means) and others who seem to miss the purpose of the post and the symbolic meaning behind the activity – let me simplify it for you.
The group is wanting to send a clear message to our elected officials and others: DON’T TREAD ON ME!
When government recoils at the massive outpouring of teadumpingness from all the other symbolic tea parties held nationwide this year and mends its ways, then I’ll believe the ‘don’t tread on me’ sentiment.
To whomever set this up, CONGRATULATIONS!
Oh, that’s priceless!
Yeah, a big congrats to Andi Elliot, one of the biggest #$%#@ to ever grace the pages of the PR’s letters to the editor. A real brainiac, that one. Have any of you actually READ her stuff? I’d be ducking for cover before ever associating myself with the likes of that woman.
“Teabaggers” — look it up sometime.
Elliott is crazy stuff like this the reason IFHS is making you retire?
There is another event on Tax Day that I just posted.
http://xcannabis.com/2009/04/tax-day-protest/
Legalize and Tax Marijuana! A Harvard Economist says that the USA would benefit over 77 Billion dollars of positive cash flow each year by legalizing adult usage of marijuana.
Marijuana doesn’t kill anyone. Tax it and regulate it!
This Teabaggers party is being sponsered across the country by the Heros and Patriots at Faux News. Sean Hannity, Harold Hill (aka Glen Beck), Bill OReiley and other nut jobs. Real Patriots that never served their country in uniform. And thanks to Andi Elliot Idaho Numbskulls will be in the spotlight.
PS: You’re welcome for the rights you have courtesy of mine and my brothers blood.
You sure seem to let the right “nut-jobs” get to you don’t you Guest? Seems every little thing they do bothers you and thats pretty amusing that you’ve got nothing better to occupy your time with then to put them down.
ps. it’s time you come up with a new slogan. the whole faux news thing is getting rather stale.
I hope all you Tea Party participants go the word about signing your name to any documents on your celebration day – all us ACORN infiltrators will be snagging your info to be used against you when judgment day comes! Obama will rule!
Also, you should make sure Mr. Crapo doesn’t make a speech at the event. Not very PC, according to the rules set out by your own national organizers. They don’t want elected Republican politicians mucking up your special event, don’tcha know!
Why is it that people bitch and moan that people don’t get off their butts long enough to care about what is happening in the country……and then when they do, people bitch and moan about them doing so?
How does this negatively effect anyone? This movement is happening all across the country and it is not a “Republican” thing…..people from both sides of the isle are mad as hell at irresponsible spending the Republocrats have hoisted on all of us.
I know that is tough for ooh to grasp, but there really are alot of topics that Republicans and Democrats can actually agree on. We really don’t have to continue to be divided or led to be divided by our so called leaders so they can keep all the power for themselves at our expense. Wake up and smell the coffee, or tea in this case! This is about irresponsible bailouts and taxation–neither of which are supported by the majority of the American People.
Please forgive the liberals, for they know not what they do. They stand for the systematic rape of honest law abiding, tax paying citizens, and I hope that our tea party knocks some sense into someone. I don’t see why I or any other decent American should subsidize someone’s job in Detroit or make up for irresponsible banker’s decisions. I’m not looking for the government to provide me with any adequate living. I can do that for myself thank you very much. So don’t bail me out . Just ask the African Americans how that has worked out for them over the past few years. Take some personal responsibility for your own life, okay and I’ll see you at the tea party!
Okay, I’ll take this time to be serious about the subject for a moment & not mock the spirit behind these events.
First – I support the right of all Americans to assemble peacefully & voice their concerns. If you read back to all my posts here, never once have I advocated for the government to ban these demonstrations, nor have I encouraged anyone not to attend.
Second – I concur there’s a lot of issues both sides of the isle can agree upon. I also see the majority of this country believing we are finally on the right track. In my mind, this is at odds with the sentiment that most Americans disagree with both TARP (which was a Bush initiative) and the stimulus package (which seems to be working so far). The third issue is the budget for this country, both the one that just passed both houses & was signed by the president, and the one that will go into place in 2010. Instead of lumping all these issues into one big concern, I realize there’s a difference among them. Do you?
I am a law abiding tax paying citizen just like you, realamericannate. I probably pay more taxes than you do, truth be told. I certainly don’t advocate rape, and I’m offended at your assertion.
I want my country to realize it’s potential, and that means getting people back to work & paying their fair share of taxes, too. It also means rebuilding our infrastructure for strength going forward, fixing our abysmal immigration policy, and providing good health insurance for every citizen living in the US. Obama has a plan to do these things, while Bush failed the task for 8 long years. “All she wants to do is dance” – as Don Henley sang.
Go ahead & enjoy your Tea Party, folks. Don’t forget your gloves, and be sure to be polite. Meanwhile, Obama will be handling this mess he inherited & doing the best he can for all the American people. It’s sure going to be a hard job.
There will never be any such thing as “providing good health insurance for every citizen living in the US”. If it is government provided, those of us that already have good private insurance plans will see a decline in service, and those that are currently going without won’t know any better.
I am able to see a valid reason for government sponsored health care plans for kids under 18 that have dead beat parents, but adults need to take care of themselves. If you don’t have health insurance, and you are capable of working full time, you need to either sacrifice a luxury (internet maybe?) and take care of your needs or shut the hell up about getting something for nothing. Which is a crock of shit anyway because you’ll end up paying more in taxes for your sub-par government health care than you will pay yearly for a private plan.
The mess “Obama inherited” was a lot more manageable than the mess D.C. is making will prove to be.
Want to define “abysmal immigration policy”?
Awww Marcus, you be da man!
The whole idea behind insurance is expanding the available pool. If we can bring the 40+ million uninsured, plus raise the pool by bringing in the under-insured under a government plan, then we will all win in the end. Kinda like Social Security. If you have an HMO like I have, you already are under the microscope of a bureaucrat. It’s just one that is focused on making money for the agency, instead of the government. I’d rather expand the pool & let my insurance be more like Medicaid.
Obama supports you if you still want private insurance. He’s never proposed socialized medicine. I want a choice better than what my employer offers me, since my choices still ding me every time I get a UTI or need a mammogram. Heaven forbid I get something that’s considered a ‘pre-existing condition’. I’m approaching 50 – and have a family history of cancer. I’m doing everything I can to prevent any kind of life-threatening illness, but I’m concerned all the same.
And to your question about immigration – do you think our current policy is working? I don’t. We need to acknowledge that states like mine need immigrant workers to thrive. They need a permanent way to work here without threat of arrest. Those who want to live here full-time need a way to do so legally so they can pay taxes to contribute to our country. Employers who continue to exploit illegals need to be punished & if needed, shut down. Borders need to be patrolled to cut down on illegal crossings, & to save the lives of people who may be so desperate to live here that they will risk their lives – as well as the lives of those they love – in order for a chance at the American Dream. Immigration policy is long due for an overhaul. Yearly limits need a reset, and we need to fund the office of immigration so applications can be dealt with in a more timely fashion.
No one should have to feel like they have to have an ‘anchor baby’ or marry an American in order to live in this wonderful country. I support English as the language used by US citizens, & I encourage TESL programs in order for all citizens to achieve proficiency in English. I also support & enjoy diversity of culture, so places like Olvera Street & Chinatown, as well as St. Patrick’s & Columbus Day, are fine with me. I’m eager to hear the Obama administration’s ideas to fix these problems.
Then get off your HMO. I’m sure your company offers a PPO plan just like every other company in this country. I tried an HMO once back in early 90’s for about 6 months and got rid of it as soon as I had to see a doctor to get a referral to see another doctor only to have them say I needed to see another doctor. F-that! I’ve had PPO ever since and won’t bother with the lame bueracracy of what is the HMO plan. If you’re not happy with your HMO, you’ve got other options available to you. And since you are always suggesting you make so much money and are paying more taxes than the rest of us, I’m sure you can afford the extra 10-15 dollar difference a month the PPO will cost you.
What AppleJack said.
I really don’t want to get into an immigration discussion, should have never knocked on that door.
Well, I would go to the PPO offered, but I live in such a small community here (not the SF area as one has suggested) that it would require me to travel an hour each way just for a doctor’s visit for an infection, or just my yearly checkup. And it would cost me a lot more than just 10 to 15 dollars per month. The local hospital’s emergency room is so understaffed that I wouldn’t use them unless I was actually dying; even then, they would just airlift me to LA for anything specialized.
I’m disappointed that Marcus doesn’t agree with me about our country’s need for comprehensive immigration reform. Sad that you may see it as strictly a black & white issue.
I didn’t say I disagreed with you completely, just that I really don’t want to get into that discussion.
I’m sticking with Bay Area
.
Ooh Child. I may not agree with you on a lot of things, but I do agree about the immigration issue. Though, somehow I don’t think we would agree on how it should be handled.
I have no problem with allowing imigrants in. I think we should do away with welfare and medicaid, or at least restrict how much is given out. Make those that are illegals have to pay for public programs, (public school, medical, welfare, and other things of the like.)
Then you may see how many are in such a hurry to get here. You and I know, that the main reason illegals are flocking here, is how insanely easy it is to get into the welfare and medicaid programs. Yes, some are actually looking for a better life, where they can work hard and see an investment in it.
But those that are looking for a free ride, need to learn that they will have to pay. Americans are tired of having our wallets stolen. By them and by the government. Which is why people who are sick of it are showing up on the 15th for the tea dumping.
This whole discussion has given me brain diarrhea.
Now that’s just downright nasty! Get the man some Immodium AD!
my4sons – good for you. The only difference we may have is regarding implementation. I support rigorous policing of the system, which is sorely lacking. Prosecute the cheaters by good detective work, video & voice monitoring; anything that will keep only the needful supplied. Give bonuses to the case workers who are truly diligent in their jobs.
JP & AJ – LOL! Thanks!
Marcus – Nope, sorry. California is more diverse than just SF & LA.
The funniest thing about this whole movement is that all those participating are naive about what teabagging means in todays world. Everytime I hear someone talk about teabagging or call themselves a teabagger I have trouble suppressing laughter.
For those in the dark, teabagging refers to a specific sexual practice that is frequently performed in porn.
urbandictionary.com
Well, isn’t that ’special’…..
~The Church Lady, Saturday Night Live!~
Being the one with the equipment required to “teabag”, I see nothing wrong with the practice. I would be proud to call myself a “teabagger”.
Also, I would say that it’s more like a fratboy assault than an act that is frequently performed in porn.
I find it pretty sad that this person continues to reference the negative meaning of the word. Their life must be pretty empty if thats all they have to contribute to this post.
Happy Easter everybody!
I find it pretty sad that Apple Jack is unable to tell that it wasn’t the same person referencing what teabagging means.
Regarding “Comment # 4 by ooh_child
“You folks realize the original Boston Tea party was in protest of a cut in taxes, don’t you? Pretty ironic, if you ask me.”
I say: To accept the lower tea prices would also have been an acceptance of the duties (taxation without representation).
The BTP is a SYMBOL of Protest. We are protesting the massive and irresponsible spending and taxation by the Federal government. A tea party is to rally support.
Do Not Tread on Me
To the comment about our policies on illegals not working – we need to Enforce the policies that we have. They would work just fine if only we had the will to enforce them.
but adults need to take care of themselves. If you don’t have health insurance, and you are capable of working full time, you need to either sacrifice a luxury (internet maybe?) and take care of your needs or shut the hell up about getting something for nothing.
gee marcus where can you get health care for 50 dollars a month/same as the internet, let me know and i’ll rush to get it
I don’t expect you to be able to correctly use this site if you couldn’t even muster up the motivation to use Google to find it, but here you are.
http://www.ehealthinsurance.com
Personally as far as the term “teabagging” is concerned…
Neither I nor anyone I know that is goingt o thing thing refurs to themselves as “teabaggers” maybe “teapartiers” but NOT “teabaggers” that’s just nasty and I haven’t seen it anywere except HERE and on a yellow merchandise bag that said “tea bag” which isn’t the same, but still is too close for me
Lovely topic. Basic brain vomit.
Now it’s being reported that all those lovely tea bags being sent to congress as a form of protest are causing panic in many mailrooms as they arrive. Remember the anthrax attacks? Workers are very cautious about opening suspicious packages, especially when they have an obscure return address.
So, haz mat teams across the country have been called in several times to deal with these protest letters. Way to go guys – cause a little terror in support of the cause!
I think we are missing the bigger picture here.
Our representatives from the President on down took an oath to defend and protect the Constitution of the United States.
Why aren’t we demanding that they honor their oath of office?
All this tax and spend hooha is unconstitutional!!
Be warned, you may end up with an FBI file:
“The Department of Homeland Security is warning law enforcement officials about a rise in “rightwing extremist activity..,”
“…The nine-page document was sent to police and sheriff’s departments across the United States on April 7 under the headline, “Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment.”
It says the federal government “will be working with its state and local partners over the next several months” to gather information on “rightwing extremist activity in the United States.”
A footnote attached to the report by the Homeland Security Office of Intelligence and Analysis defines “rightwing extremism in the United States” as including not just racist or hate groups, but also groups that reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority.
“It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single-issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration,” the warning says.
See: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/14/federal-agency-warns-of-radicals-on-right/
Happy Tea Party!
That’s just sad…
I work in the “current” medical industry. I am finding that people that live an hour away are getting turned down for the maintenance and repair of Durable Medical Equipment, because Medicare and/or Medicaid will not pay for travel to pick up a wheelchair, a hospital bed, an oxygen concentrator, etc. If these are examples of “National” health care, I feel that most people, in Idaho, will be finding that there is no and/or little medical help. I support this kind of expression because I believe that a beuracracy is cost ineffective and detrimental. As is the current levels of “government” in virtually its every aspect. To much time, money and effort in justifyinjobs,finding “cheaters” that the real needs are not met. I am not saying that these are not important, but emphasis should be placed where it is needed.
Dedicated to all “teabaggers”
http://crooksandliars.com/media/play/wmv/7867/27386
daho Falls Today! Comment # 56 by Marcus on April 14, 2009 @ 4:05 am
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I don’t expect you to be able to correctly use this site if you couldn’t even muster up the motivation to use Google to find it, but here you are.
http://www.ehealthinsurance.com
insurance for me would be 160 a month….im just saying that’s a hefty internet bill
Covering me, $2,500 deductible, 20% coinsurance, $25 copay (office visit) and $10 generic prescriptions. Comes to $64 per month, damn near the cost of internet.
Wow, Marcus, you are way over-paying for internet. lots of plans out there for $14.95/mo with deluxe plans at $29.95/mo.
And what are you basing your 20% co-pay on? One single shoulder surgery is about $45K.
A work insurance plan doesn’t get much better and in most cases is more expensive.
For internet I pay about $40/mo for 7m down, 900k up. Please refer me to these cheap plans that will match what I’m getting currently and I’ll gladly switch from my overly expensive service. Also, the fact that you’re focusing solely on internet costs shows just how narrow minded and shallow you are. Internet is an unnecessary luxury…just like cell phone service and cable television. Cut your costs in any way possible if you need the coverage.
You have to pay money for health care, that’s all there is to it. If you’re worried about the up front costs of preventative care, dump in a monthly amount so you can visit the doctor and get prescriptions when you need to at a lesser instantaneous cost. If you’re healthy and only visit the doctor once or twice a year, I don’t know why you would need insurance anyway. The costs will likely balance out with or without, they’ll just be distributed differently.
$45,000 shoulder surgery. You’ll automatically be paying $2,500 of that based on your deductible. With the annual out of pocket limit of $2,500, your max cost would be $5,000 per year, not counting prescriptions. Seems well worth $775 per year to me.
Get yourself covered or don’t get yourself covered…really doesn’t matter to me. Private health care is affordable, people just make expense an excuse not to pick it up, so they’re pushing the government mandate it so they don’t have a choice. Damn bunch of unmotivated gits.
im not being narrow minded and shallow, just making a point on what you said about dump your internet to get health coverage. I’m not saying internet is expensive, nor am i saying that health coverage is cheap…but merely getting rid of your internet as you suggested in order to get health coverage…well that’s a gap of 120 or so. You made it sound like that’s all it would cost….merely making a point
I said cut out luxuries and gave internet as one example. You dumbed it down to cutting internet only. Yeesh.
Testy, Testy Marcus. You really need to take a breath. How about we get back on topic?
http://savetherich.com/
Twas the night before teabaggin’…
… and all through the state,
Not a Rethuglican was stirring,
Though their mouths were agape.
The teabags were hung above the wingnuts post haste,
Hairy and sweaty, and just to their taste.
Yadda yadda yadda,
and so on and so forth,
“Happy Teabaggin’ Day” to all GOoPers,
Jeeeezus, you people are schmucks.
http://www.43rdstateblues.com/?q=twas_the_night_before_teabaggin
Proven wrong you change the topic. Good job.
Also trying to punish the successful I see. Your kind drags society down.
Nope, just following TOS #1 “Please stay polite and on topic. ”
Of course you wouldn’t even know how you are being manipulated because your ears and mind appear to be so closed you won’t check anything out.
I dare you to actually check out the site http://savetherich.com/. You got it in ya? Come on Marcus, you always seem to have plenty of testosterone flowing. Be Brave! Dare of to open your mind and smell the coffee rather than throwing your wet tea bags around.
calling people schmucks is being polite in your book? Alrightythen
Bottom Line? Here you go …
You are not getting a tax hike, which is what the sheeple are protesting at these so-called Tea Parties. You have been duped as foot soldiers to protect the top 1% at your own expense. Hannity/Rush and company wouldn’t come off as populist if they were honest and just said they want more millions, so they have to enlist you to ask for their bigger piece of the pie.
Their goal? Protect tax cuts for the top 1% by cutting two months of wages from middle class workers just trying to get by.
Under Republican economics, when the economy booms only the top benefits, and when the economy busts only the middle class suffers. 50% of all CEO’s made over 1.08 million, poor things. They probably couldn’t survive on just a million.
Sorry to offend your delicate sensibilities.
The tea parties aren’t about tax hikes, you goon. Get a damn life and stop swallowing everything that the media throws your way.
Oh really, Marcus? Please enlighten us all., all-knowing one What are the tea parties about?
From the Wall Street Journal:
“Today American taxpayers in more than 300 locations in all 50 states will hold rallies — dubbed “tea parties” — to protest higher taxes ….”
But, I imagine you know more Marcus. You always do.
Really, Marcus? You might want to inform the American Spectator about that:
http://spectator.org/archives/2009/04/15/the-tea-party-revolution
“Obviously, these sharp tax increases will trash the economy in the future, not promote growth. Higher energy costs in particular will chase remaining American manufacturing overseas.
All of this is why America will be in the streets today demanding a U-turn from Obama’s road to oblivion, returning to Reagan’s highway to prosperity, which Bush mistakenly exited.”
Then there’s the claim this is a ‘grassroots group of events’ – hahaha! Good one, Freedomworks:
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=FreedomWorks
Finally, a little more info for you (& my4sons) about the original Boston Tea Party:
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/04/15-10
“The real Boston Tea Party was a protest against huge corporate tax cuts for the British East India Company, the largest trans-national corporation then in existence. This corporate tax cut threatened to decimate small Colonial businesses by helping the BEIC pull a Wal-Mart against small entrepreneurial tea shops, and individuals began a revolt that kicked-off a series of events that ended in the creation of The United States of America.
They covered their faces, massed in the streets, and destroyed the property of a giant global corporation. Declaring an end to global trade run by the East India Company that was destroying local economies, this small, masked minority started a revolution with an act of rebellion later called the Boston Tea Party.
On a cold November day in 1773, activists gathered in a coastal town. The corporation had gone too far, and the two thousand people who’d jammed into the meeting hall were torn as to what to do about it. Unemployment was exploding and the economic crisis was deepening; corporate crime, governmental corruption spawned by corporate cash, and an ethos of greed were blamed. “Why do we wait?” demanded one at the meeting, a fisherman named George Hewes. “The more we delay, the more strength is acquired” by the company and its puppets in the government. “Now is the time to prove our courage,” he said. Soon, the moment came when the crowd decided for direct action and rushed into the streets.
That is how I tell the story of the Boston Tea Party, now that I have read a first-person account of it.”
Haven’t we already gone over this in this thread? Maybe you two should read what I have already posted above. To say that “it’s about higher taxes” without any sort of elaboration is to dumb it down the point of idiocy. This is what the newspapers, television and radio have done in an effort to reduce turnout, and you guys are swallowing it hook, line and sinker.
The civility on this site always amazes me. If we were all in the same room right now, we’d be throwing rotten fruit at each other. This is not debate. This is not discussion. This is middle school. It is true what Mark Twain says: “Man is the only animal that blushes. Or has need to.”
A bit of advice for our friend Marcus:
Your problem Marcus, is that you resort to anger and sarcasm and know-it-all-ishness (my own word), exultantly, and with relish. You never seem to feel more yourself than when you are flaunting your umbrage at people you regard as smaller than you.
Sooooo, even when you are right, the whole world will assume you are wrong when you behave that way. Anger is a losing throw. When you come out fighting like a cornered rat, calling names and kicking a$$, people will assume it’s because you are cornered, that you have resorted to rage because you don’t have the argument.
And, yes, I am a therapist!
Bloop, I’ve been very civil in this discussion; I’ve not called names, and I’ve backed up every one of my points with relevant documentation. I suggest you might want to develop some thicker skin if you want to participate in discussions a little more interesting than the local weather forecast.
Marcus, your response is little more than sticking your fingers in your ears and chanting ‘lalalalala’ whenever the truth is pointed out to you.
Our representatives are not representing us. They are representing themselves in hopes of furthering their careers. This is what is being protested. Policy changes, spending, taxation without representation of the people. A lack of representation for the citizens of this country is the only reason that a parallel is being drawn between these “tea parties” and the events occurring in 1773.
This extends beyond tax hikes, and you know it.
Taxation w/o representation? Really? Last I checked all of our officials were duly elected. Oh, unless you’re counting Bush’s first term.
No charge, and you’re welcome for the therapy, Marcus.
Now, count to 10 and take a breath … altogehter now.
I take it that you feel that your views and values are being represented then. Good for you.
Last time I checked, the majority of people in this country support Obama’s policies concerning the economy, health care, education, and foreign affairs. Seems he is representing the will of the people, Marcus.
A vocal minority are pissed off that they lost the last election. Democracy in action, I say. As Jon Stewart pointed out so comically: ‘I think your confusing tyranny with losing’.
I hate to distract the attention from topic to commenter, but I want to alert the site admins and perhaps all readers of Marcus’ remarks in this thread. I think once you read this summary we can agree Marcus is flagrantly violating the community’s comment guidelines. I hope the administration warns and suspends Marcus for his hostile remarks across this site, which are merely sampled from his usual here:
comment 15: “Reading comprehension not your thing ooh_child? Not surprising.”
comment 67: “Also, the fact that you’re focusing solely on internet costs shows just how narrow minded and shallow you are. ”
comment 69: “I said cut out luxuries and gave internet as one example. You dumbed it down to cutting internet only. Yeesh.”
comment 72: “Your kind drags society down.”
comment 77: “The tea parties aren’t about tax hikes, you goon. Get a damn life and stop swallowing everything that the media throws your way.”
comment 81: “To say that “it’s about higher taxes” without any sort of elaboration is to dumb it down the point of idiocy.”
I understand Marcus may have been baited by other comments in relation to what I re-posted here, but does anyone disagree that this is the type of abuse we are subjected to on a daily basis from the user Marcus?
Notice I have no problem with Marcus’ talking points or opinions. I do disagree with most of what he said, but the problem is that Marcus chooses to denigrate people he disagrees with, in a very hostile tone which ultimately serves to drive other commenters away.
I have learned to not bother responding to Marcus’ comments because he never admits he could possibly be wrong, never changes his mind when presented with new information, and worst of all he attempts prove his points by humiliation.
I encourage everyone to not respond to Marcus when he behaves this way. Perhaps his behaviors can be changed subtly by lack of attention, since directly appealing to him seems to have failed.
Comment 89, there has been quite a bit of poo poo flinging going on on this site as of late, and it hasn’t all been Marcus, so lets keep things fair here and list everyone’s name calling, if that has to happen.
lol
If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. If site admins want to get rid of me, they’re more than welcome to.
Where is Crapo’s and Mel Richardson’s support for the anti-Federal Reserve bill hr 1207? Where were they when Ron Paul was running and had a chance? Oh that’s right – behind McCain supporting him and telling local republicans and conservatives that we needed to get excited about McLame!
Dear Alice,
You need to take a re-read. Guest hit the nail squarely on the head. No one has offended even close to what Marcus has. Moderaters have edited others’ comments, but Marcus seems to have some sort of ’special’ dispensation from the powers that be.
If you trully believe that the people that we have in office are all “dully elected” you are not even in the struggle and have your head still burried in the sand. Youtube The Obama Deception. I don’t think we’ve had a real election since Kenedy truthfully. They wont’ allow one.
And you haven’t instigated a thing have you Priceless?
That’s the pot calling the kettle black.
“If you truly believe that the people that we have in office are all “duly elected” you are not even in the struggle and have your head still buried in the sand.”
QFT
As for my comments being ignored by the mods…I’m just that cool baby. You’re just jealous that you can’t be a brash asshole and get away with it. I do this with style.
http://strucksilent.com/ift/thatsright.jpg
You are a hoot Marcus. And you labeled yourself very well …. a legend in your own mind.
Whenever I ask who “they” are to conspiracy theorists, they can’t answer. Because “they” won’t let us know.
Give me a break. I’ve seen the Obama Deception and it’s a joke. Alex Jones makes his living off pandering to anti-Illuminati nutjobs.
That was a very enlightening experience.
Our own hilarious Marcus says: “The tea parties aren’t about tax hikes, you goon.” Ummm, Marcus you might want to check out all the signs being flaunted at the tea bagger parties and catch a clue.
You seem to be out of the loop on this one.
Did you read the signs? You either weren’t there, or didn’t pay attention.
Hint, Hint ….. there were other tea parties other than IF. Lots of photos and video footage all over about the tax protests. Oh, I forgot. You don’t watch the news, so you wouldn’t know that.
You do know that the visuals on the news aren’t representative of the entirety of the gathering don’t you?
psssst ….. don’t anyone tell Marcus, but TEA in tea party meant:
T – Taxed
E – Enough
A – Already
Which wasn’t mentioned once by the organizers. Did you get that lovely gem from the news too?
Official IF Tea Party Flyer: http://cdn.cloudfiles.mosso.com/c51872/Idaho__Idaho%20Falls.pdf
Listing of Idaho Tea Parties: http://taxdayteaparty.com/teaparty/idaho/
Seems to me that you’ve got it wrong Priceless, along with all of the news outlets reporting on it.
FED UP WITH GOVERNMENT RUN AMOK, AMERICANS
GATHER ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO PEACEFULLY PROTEST AN
UNPRECEDENTED EXPANSION OF GOVERNMENT SPENDING AND POWER.
Not simply taxes.
The net effect of the teaparty, at least in Idaho Falls, was wasted tax dollars. The people in Idaho Falls created a huge mess on Memorial Drive and wouldn’t stay out of the road. Which led to the police having to shut down Memorial Drive which led to officers who are paid by tax dollars having to waste significant time doing traffic enforcement.
And no doubt there was a lot of litter dumped, as there always is when you get hundreds of people down on the greenbelt, which will cause more city employees paid by tax dollars to have to spend significant time cleaning up after the teabaggers today.
Good job teabaggers. Way to cause your tax dollars to be wasted.
That is one thing that always ticks me off.
Why is it that singly, most people seem to have the common sense to put their garbage in a garbage can. But get a bunch of people together, and they just throw their crap wherever they can.
Tea Party or 4th of July, why do people have to be such pigs?
Just a thought…. I’ll go back to my lunch…
Anonymous — where were you when the illegals marched in our streets last year (in other states) and left their garbage and the huge expense of extra city employees needed for them to do so. According to all media (especially CNN)…….WE THE PEOPLE, (the Tea Party patriots), were so SMALL in number…….
The Memorial Drive Tea Party participants were SPOTLESS! A different group of people. To the welfare recipients, who came by with their ‘negative’ finger, it’s America, Priceless!
Andi Elliott – Thanks for a wonderful, peaceful event. Let us know for the next time!!! LOVE YOU ANDi
I’m very glad to hear that the tea party didn’t create a mess. IMO that says volumes for the type of people participating
Of course the teapartiers didn’t leave a mess. They were white people.
Basically thats whats being said in post 109. They offer no proof of the garbage left by the immigrant marchers nor do they offer any proof of the lack of garbage left behind by the teapartiers. Though by its very nature its obvious the teapartiers did pollute our river with tea.
Its only common sense though to expect that both groups left garbage behind. It happens EVERY SINGLE TIME a large gathering happens. To single out the hispanics reveals an underlying bias against them.
You folks realize the original Boston Tea party was in protest of a cut in taxes, don’t you? Pretty ironic, if you ask me.
In addition, I had a good giggle every time I heard you folks call yourselves ‘teabaggers’. I don’t think you knew what that term means!