Did we REALLY land on the Moon?
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Personally I think no. There are numerous claims that it was all a hoax. Some believe it was all staged because of the space race between the US and Russia.
I’ll be the first to admit I watched “Conspiracy Theory: Did we land on the moon” and they made some extremely valid points. But I’ve also read quite a few books and websites on the topic. It’s been said that the moon landing was not a scientific endeavour at all, but purely a political decision in order to win the “space race”. It was believed at that time in history, that whoever controlled space would have an enormous military advantage.
So why would NASA claim that there’s no point in returning to the moon? We’re much more scientifically advanced now than we were back in 1969, so why not?
What are your thoughts? Do you believe we actually went to the moon? I honestly don’t believe that we did. If you do, why do you think we haven’t gone back?
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0 I guess I asked for it, didn’t I?
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I put this info in another thread before I saw this had been started.
Hoax accusations:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing#Moon_Landing_hoax_accusations
Hoax accusation rebuttals:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Moon_Landing_hoax_accusations#Hoax_rebuttal_links
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0 0 Holy cow. (Maybe I shouldn’t say cow…it claimed to have jumped over the moon.)
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0 0 Christi….do a little reaserch before you start please. Why didn’t we go back? Ahhhh, Apollo 12, 14, 15, 16, 17 all done between July 1969 and Dec. 1972. All manned missions. What do you mean “why didn’t we go back?” Personally I cannot believe that there are actually people who disbelieve the fact that we did land on the Moon, but after reading some of the comments made on this web site in the last year, nothing surprises me! American’s have always seemed to have a fixation with “government conspiracies.†Why do I believe that we did in fact put a man on the Moon? Because my government told me so! Just kidding. I know that wasn’t funny. Because its a fact! There is NO WAY the US could pull of a hoax like that. To many people were involved. And the Chineese are planning a manned mission to the Moon as soon as 2010, so perhaps they will find evidence of our landing. Then you all can say they faked it too.
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0 0 First off it’s CHRIS, not Christi.
Second, I’ve been to the Smithsonian Institute and have seen the space suits supposedly used. There’s no way those suits could have withstood that atmostphere! You can tell that just be looking at them!
Thirdly….”there’s no way we could pull a hoax like that” Are you kidding me? Now THAT’s funny!
And why did the Russians stop their race to the moon? Because we got their first? I seriously doubt that. It’s because they realized it was impossible!
I HAVE done my research on the subject. It’s been something I’ve been interested in for many years.
Tell me, why does Neil Armstrong refuse to talk about his moon mission? Why, when asked about that mission one time did he state, “Ask me no questions and I’ll tell you no lies”. Buzz Aldrin too refuses to place his hand on a bible and swear he walked on the moon.
You can believe what you want, but I believe it was all a hoax. Why haven’t we gone back in the last 20+ years?
Also….the landing was broadcast live. Why was there no delay in transmission when the astronauts were asked questions by Houston Command? There’s quite a bit of delay when a reporter in New York does a live interview and asks a reporter in Iraq a question. And this is 30+ years later. So why is there absolutely no delay in transmission when talking to a man on the moon? Please answer me that one!
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0 0 OMG! If you have any real doubts about the moon missions, take a trip to Kennedy Space Center. It definitely has the WOW factor, it will give you goosebumps and put to rest any doubts you might have. I think the reason we haven’t been back is this: How many times do you need to investigate a rock? That is pretty much what the moon is and continuing to spend money to go back seems a big waste of taxpayers money. BTW do you believe that we have Space Shuttle Missions and a Space Station or is all of that a figmant of our imagination?
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0 0 I have been to the Kennedy Space Ctr. Before I moved up here a year ago I used to live 2 hours south of there for the past 30 years. I could see the space shuttle take off from my house being 2 hours south. I’m not talking about the space shuttle OR the space station. Those BOTH operate much closer to earth than the moon. I’m talking landing ON THE MOON in 1969!
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0 0 Anonymous, Hold the Phone…. Christy went to the Smithsonian Institute and evaluated the space suits. Her analysis of those suits has put this issue to rest and convinced me. Another darn Government conspiracy. Oh well, I can go back to my mission of locating the Roswell Martians.
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0 0 The Chinese you say are planning a trip to the moon in 2010. If we went to the moon in 1969, why has it taken them SO long to even attempt it? If the technology is there what’s the hold up?
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0 0 Chris, all you have to do is go here:
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html
Phil (The Bad Astronomer) has quite the reputation in handling “Moon Hoax” questions in general, and the sci-fi movie you watched in particular.
Once you’ve read his rebuttal, check out his movie reviews. They’re a hoot!
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0 0 Christy, Thanks for your comments in paragraph #1 above. In regards to your paragraph number 2, let me say this… You mention the fact that the Chinese are only now getting close to a manned Moon mission, so how could it have been possible for us to launch such a mission that many years ago? Good question, though the answer will not likely be received well by you. I will give it to you anyway. The question is a good one. You yourself see the reasons behind this as evidence that our Government (and therefore our country) is a joke. This PROVES that we could never have been on the Moon because we could certainly never have been that technologically advanced over the Chinese. I see this in a different way. To me, the fact that we were able to do this is a tremendous testimonial to the Scientists, Engineers and people of that time. There was a day when this was the greatest country on Earth. What our people have been able to do in previous generations has been nothing short of breathtaking. But we have managed to slip a little with each generation. People like Jane Fonda and her “Peace activism,†Dr. Spock with his child rearing BS, our political crap and infighting, our greed and need for more, more and yet more. We have fallen to the point now where more and more people LOOK for reasons to disbelieve their Government (on any topic) than they do to support it. We have no unity. We have no belief in ourselves. We are fat, dumb and yet still, unhappy. There is no pride in this Country anymore. Children today do not say the Pledge of Allegiance with their hands on their hearts and a tear in their eye because today those are just words. Words that we do not even allow them to say anymore because, aahh, God forbid – it contains the word GOD! . The Japanese and others are passing us by. They are being better educated. They are more frugal with their money, less greedy and have held tighter to their beliefs, traditions and heritage. They respect their Senior Citizen – we “tolerate†ours and feel like we are going the extra mile. We think we must save the world. We chase our tails with causes like “Global Warming†and starving cats and Dogs, while our own children have no medical care and so many live in poverty. We my friend have become a joke. We are so busy working two jobs to make money to have more, more, and more that we let an electronic box baby-sit our fat lazy children after school until we can get home. The average child sits down at that box and commits a dozen killings in unbelievable, realistic, graphic detail before he or she even has a chance to sit down to a nice bowl of Ramen Noodles and soda crackers at 7 pm when we get home. And then we blame the violence that results from this on Guns – the one freedom that when handled properly helps make (and keep) us great, by allowing we the people to protect ourselves from this Government of ours if it ever gets out of hand. Now days, people like you look hard for a reason to hate out Government. To mistrust our Government. Even over something as simple as this topic. The fact that we were on the Moon so many years ago is a testimony to what this country was.
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0 0 Ooh Child: Thanks for the civilized reply and link. I’ve read it before and it makes some seemingly valid points. That show definately wasn’t my main source of information as to whether or not it happened. Plus there are so many other points that aren’t discussed in that link that just don’t make sense.
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0 0 Like what, Chris? Name one that Phil doesn’t address, & I’ll take a shot at it.
I remember watching the landing as it happened. Are you old enough to remember that?
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0 0 Ohh_child,
At 40y/o I don’t remember the live broadcast. Although I have seen it replayed a number of times.
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Why is there no delay in transmission? There’s a delay in transmission when you talk to someone in another country (in our day and age)…why not back in 1969 worlds away?
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0 0 I do remember the news anchors at the time discussing the time delays for transmission. What makes you think there were no time delays?
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0 0 I’m not saying it was a hoax but if it was it would have been a very easy hoax to pull off. Because as described in the conspiracy articles fewer than 10 people would have been in on it. The thousands of people at mission control and otherwise involved in the project would all actually be thinking the ship had gone to the moon. Only the astronauts and a few necessary people would know they really flew to a sound stage in Nevada and then later took off again to land in the ocean.
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0 0 I’ve seen the live broadcast a number of times and there was never that long of a delay in radio transmission. Actually not even any longer than the delay you usually see when a reporter is interviewing somebody overseas.
But I guess somebody could argue the delay was edited out.
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0 0 Of course they were edited out for rebroadcast during news reports & such. Time during a 30 minute news program is precious, & using clips in TV shows & movies that still had the delay would mar the flow of the program.
Now let me ask you about the equipment left on the Moon. We track the movement of the Moon by measuring reflected lasar light from a mirror that’s on the surface of the Moon. How can astronomers do this if we were never there to place this mirror?
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0 0 http://www.braeunig.us/space/hoax.htm
A good link on the subject
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0 0 Davin, PLEASE tell me that you are kidding — and that you realize that this is not Neil Armstrongs voice, and that this is a staged clip that was abviously done as a joke…. When you write “Proof” — you don’t really believe that this is in fact real. Please. While I still have some hope.
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0 0 Of course it is a joke.
Honestly, I have seen compelling evidence on both sides of this subject. My official stance is that I don’t really know for sure. There are more recent events that have much more conclusive evidence that they are not what we were first led to believe.
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0 0 Thank you! You scared me for a minute with the whole “Proof (go ahead and humm ‘Dun dun duuuuuuun’) thing”
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0 0 I have only seen one piece of evidence that made me skeptical of a moon landing. If I can find it, I’ll post it.
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0 0 “There’s no way those suits could have withstood that atmostphere!”
The Moon has no atmosphere.
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0 0 So. How about the space walks going on now? Are those baloney too? Even with 1960s technology it is not hard to imagine making a suit that could protect astronauts.
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0 0 No, I believe there’s a space station and space walks and all that, I just don’t believe they went to the moon back in 1969.
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0 0 Chris, unless I miss my guess you weren’t even born on July 20, 1969 and if you were you were way too young to know and feel what it was all about. Watching reruns of the event will never come close to living the whole thing “live”, as did my generation. It was truly a different world then as so aptly discribed by feelinlucky.
You have to understand that if Pres. Kennedy would have challenged the country to go to Mars by the end of the decade rather that the moon, we would have attempted it and maybe succeeded. It was the whole attitude of good vs. evil and being the best and pride in America. Maybe you remember a little of it when Ronald Reagan caused it to return for a short season with his challenges to the Soviet Union. We were proud to be Americans and we could do any d… thing we set our minds to.
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0 0 Chris, I answered your question about the delays in transmissions. Did you see my question for you? If not, I’ll ask again: There are mirrors on the Moon that reflect laser light back to Earth; how did they get there if not placed by us?
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0 0 I wholeheartedly dismiss the allegations that the moon landing was a hoax.
However, in one of those links I posted above, one of the issues skeptics had with the moon mirrors is that Russians placed a bunch of those mirrors on the moon with non-manned missions.
But there is much more evidence to support the moon landing. Please look at those links and you will see the conspiracy theories and the evidence to pop those theories.
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0 0 if we landed on the moon why didn’t we go back
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0 0 We did go back. but really how many times do u want?
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0 0 Yeah dude, there wasn’t much to see the first time. It’s a big, dusty rock in the sky. It’d be like going to Pittsburgh on vacation, then turning down a trip to Vegas for more … Pittsburgh.
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0 0 There’s not much more to see on Mars, so why are we so concerned with that planet? And it’s not like we did any scientific studies on the moon. NASA admits they didn’t go there for any scientific purposes. I’m sure there’s alot we could learn by spending more time there.
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0 0 I’m pretty sure we DID land on the moon. It was a BIG DEAL for us to get there before the Russians did so we would do whatever it took to “win”.
I LIKE the idea of a Capricorn One style conspiracy though - I love a good conspiracy theory.
Many of the “conspiracies” I’ve heard over the years lo-and-behold of turn out to be intelligent truths. In this case though, Iiiiiiiiiii don’t think so. I think we landed on the moon. Our collective ego is too big to have NOT done so.
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0 0 well guys there are some pictures shows that we were on the moon what really made me ask is as i know during the day the temperature is extremely high ( over 100 c ) so why the flag didn’t burned out ?
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0 0 Daniel, I can’t stop laughing. Do you really think that flag is made of commmon cloth? … you will learn there are some very stong fabrics out there that are fireproof. You made my day! I haven’t had a good laugh like this in a long time.
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0 0 So why was the flag blowing in the wind when there’s not suppossed to be any wind on the moon?
I’m sure you’ve got an answer for that one too though.
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0 0 Spin !!
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0 0 Penn and Teller did a hilarious spin on this in their “Bull@#$&” series on Showtime ( you can just google it and watch it online, however, as several episodes–including the “moon hoax” episode–are online)…anyway, the points made by most naysayers (including the flag “waving”) are addressed in the documentary.
JeremyPlo comment 34 still has me LOL….I HAVE been to Pittsburgh! ha ha…
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0 0 So what’s the point in having a space station? Wouldn’t it be safer to have it on a planet, such as the moon, instead of having it hanging out in the middle of space where you’re limited in what you can do? I don’t buy it.
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0 0 To quote moonmovie.com
“The Space Shuttle, so far, has killed fourteen people, merely trying to attain an orbit about two hundred fifty miles above the Earth. How is it then, that a third of a century ago, with less computing power in the entire rocket than in a present day twenty dollar Wal-Mart watch, NASA claims to have gone 100,000% farther, six different times between 1969 and 1972, landing on another celestial body and then returning, without ever killing anyone? How could they have powered air conditioning in two hundred fifty degree heat for three days with batteries? Why is the “second round” of “returning” to the moon estimated to be no earlier than half a century after the first? (Would there be a fifty-year span between the first and second trips across the Atlantic in an airplane?)
I would urge each of you to view the “intro movie” on this website, and then come back here and tell me you seriously believe we landed on the moon. http://www.moonmovie.com/moonmovie/intro.html
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0 0 Okay. I seriously believe we landed on the moon.
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0 0 I’m with George on this one. Here are some of the main reasons we never made it:
http://www.moonmovie.com/moonmovie/default.asp?ID=7
It’s funny how many people blindly beleive whatever our government tells us. Instead of opening their minds to the possibility that it just might have been a hoax.
“It was on tv….so it has to be true”. “my government would NEVER lie to me”!
alrightythen! Here….let me pour you some more kool aid!
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0 0 I’ve asked this before, & never really got a logical explanation from any moon-hoaxers. If we never landed on the moon, how did that mirror get there?
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0 0 The Japanese have put mirrors on the moon as well but they’ve never set foot on the moon. Its called an unmanned space flight.
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0 0 I’ve been to the Smithsonian Air & Space Museum in Washington DC and got to see alot of that space memoriabilia. It was pretty awesome to see, but to tell you the truth, much of the stuff like the spacesuits, etc looked rather flimsy and didn’t really look like it would have withstood a trip to the moon. But what do I know.
Nevertheless, it’s a cool place to go visit and I would recommend it to everyone.
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0 0 You mean the moon is a cool place to visit and you would recommend it to everyone?
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0 0 I’d love to know more about the Japanese putting an unmanned probe on the moon. Could you, Guest, show me more?
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0 0 my bad oohchild….it was the Russians that placed these reflective mirrors on the moon, not the Japanese.
Look at this link about mid way down the page. http://www.moonmovie.com/moonmovie/default.asp?ID=8
The thing is, the Russian were much further along with their space program than we were back inthe 60’s. They already had the first satellite in space, the first man, woman & monkey in space, yet all of a sudden we just up and land on the moon without any problems whatsoever, blowing them clean out of the water. interesting to say the least.
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0 0 Personally, I dont think there are any of these “mirrors” on the moon. the moon naturally reflects both light and radio frequencies, which was proven back in the 1950’s. Also, why hasn’t the Hubble Telescope ever brought us pictures of these mirrors, or any other evidence left from these lunar landings? I would think it’d be quite easy to spot these things, since the Hubble can take pictures of planets thousands of miles further than the moon.
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0 0 So. . .how ’bout those Maple Leafs?
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0 0 Please read the wikipedia page about the moon landing hoax. This section specifically addresses the arguments about America supposedly being so far behind the Ruskies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing_hoax#Technological_capability_of_USA_compared_with_the_USSR
Basically many of their “firsts” were not that technologically advancing (such as the first woman in space), the state-controlled Russian media did not report the less glamorous aspects of their firsts, and many of those firsts were followed soon thereafter by America but much less publicized cuz 2nd place doesn’t get attention.
Most importantly, the Russians never developed a strong moon landing program. We did develop a strong moon landing program after appearing to be behind in the space race.
I can appreciate academic exercises and thinking outside the box, but this issue really seems answered to me.
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0 0 Are you all kidding me? I’ve reached the moon without leaving my couch!
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0 0 I hope you washed your hands.
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0 0 So basically people….we’re just suppposed to believe everything our government and big business (NASA) tells us, cuz they would NEVER lie to the American publik.
Just please keep paying your taxes like good little drones and don’t bother questioning our authoriti!
We will tell you what is true and what is not and dagnabit….you had better not question it!
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0 0 So Guest, what you’re saying is the main adversary of the US during the Cold War shared technical information with our scientists, and told them exactly where the mirror was placed, in order for our scietists to conduct lunar experiments? Hahahahaha! That’s really good…
And we wonder why 1 in 3 Americans think Hussein/Iraq had a hand in 9/11…..
There’s a section of the American public that will believe anything…….
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0 0 Amen! And there’s another section who WON’T believe anything.
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0 0 My belief that the United States of America landed astronauts on the Moon has nothing to do with either the government or the military-industrial complex telling me they did. Nor does my belief rest on moon rocks, Apollo spacecraft, space suits, photographs, video and audio recordings or any other physical proofs anyone can offer. As Moon landing hoaxers, authors, painters, photographers, Hollywood film artists and any other bevy of creative and technical experts ably and comically portray, it’s easy to come up with this kind of evidence. And presenting that kind of evidence does not stop the nay-sayers. Never will. Someone asked earlier in the chatbox why John Glenn would not swear on a Bible that he landed on the Moon. You’ll have to ask him. My belief: He did not wish to dignify such a stupid request with a response. My parallel belief: He could swear on a stack of Bibles as tall as a Saturn V rocket, and the nay-sayers still wouldn’t believe him.
My belief that the United States of America
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