Comments on: Discipline Debate: Should spanking be outlawed?

By: quest to arm

quest to arm — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:28:06 +0000

LOL

By: anonymous

anonymous — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:33:47 +0000

not

By: crystal

crystal — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:51:10 +0000

Now that is baiting.

By: galpalguy

galpalguy — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:37:28 +0000

verbal abuse…like calling all the IFLZ posters speeding fat j@#$ offs?

By: quest to arm

quest to arm — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:15:43 +0000

verbal abuse is cruel and no child eserves to be talked down to. I treat all of my kids with respect and they love me like no other. We have alot of respect for each other in our house.

By: crystal

crystal — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:22:27 +0000

My opinion without citing a bunch of studies is that verbal and emotional abuse is the most damaging of all. At least in my own experience, which unfortunately runs the gamut.

By: parent

parent — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:10:46 +0000

Questinarm, I believe you are right but I can honestly say that we got spanked every so often, not alot but the verbal abuse really stuck with us.

Crystal, I think for the most part that is very accurate information.

By: quest to arm

quest to arm — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 23:10:58 +0000

Oh yea I am really going to go tell him that and get punched in my face for sticking my nose in his buisness. I feel bad for him but what can I say I feel more bad for his now ex wife who has the kids alone and left him because of his temper.

By: crystal

crystal — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:45:18 +0000

By: crystal

crystal — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:44:15 +0000

Myabe your friend’s mom didn’t hit him as a child because the dad was hitting her too. Are you doing anything to help your friend get help for his abusive behavior? Sounds like he needs anger management counseling. (or his girlfriend needs bear spray )

By: quest to arm

quest to arm — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 15:38:26 +0000

Wow no wonder why the government has to step in a raise children. Parents can’t punish them for fear they will have so many psycological problems. I was spanked as a child and never been in trouble with the police and I did good in school. I have no psycological issues I have never been put on any meds. I also believe some people are psycologicaly more sound than others. Everyone is special and has thier own way to deal with the surrounding world. I knew this one guy who was also spanked by his father as a child. He is 32 now and has a real bad temper and can get agresive towards everyone around him and real defensive at times. it was found out earlier he had issues because his mother never disaplined him as a child but his father did. So he had some anger towards his mother for not stoping his fathers punishments. He takes that anger out on women he loves by hitting them and calling them names. I never expressed any of the same behavior and my father did all the punishing too. I think it depends on the child some children are sensative to punishments and some are not some might even feel as though they deserved it lol. I know I sure deserved a spanking every now and again. I was a defiant child who liked making his own world with his own rules lol

By: Crystal

Crystal — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 07:20:37 +0000

so see, verbal agression on this site made me use that bad word in the chatbox lol jk!

By: Crystal

Crystal — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 07:18:00 +0000

and from a study cited at one of the above links:

Parental verbal aggression was directly related to the behavior problems of the child as follows:

The more frequent the rate of verbal aggression by the parent, the greater the probability of physical, aggressive, or delinquent behavior by the child.

Children who never experience being hit by their parents often exhibit behavior problems associated with verbal aggression.

The correlation between verbal aggression and psychosocial problems affects all age groups, both sexes, and all families regardless of their socioeconomic status.

The psychosocial problems of children is more directly related to parental verbal aggression than to physical aggression.

Psychosocial behavior problems of children were found to be more directly affected by a combination of verbal aggression and abusive violence rather than experiencing either by themselves.

By: Crystal

Crystal — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 07:09:33 +0000

here are a few for starters:

http://www.neurodiversity.com/verbal_abuse.html

http://www.factscourtwatch.org/Emotional-Psychological%20Abuse%20Fact%20Sheet.htm

http://tyc.state.tx.us/prevention/verbalag.html

By: Crystal

Crystal — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 06:17:52 +0000

There is a great deal of research on this topic. Have you done any google searches? That might provide you with the most comprehensive analyses on this subject. If you need help linking to sources of info I’ll gladly help next time I’m online.

By: parent

parent — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:31:35 +0000

I’m curious to know how many of you were verbally/emotionally abused when you were younger and which you felt was more damaging, a swat on the rear end (not beating) or some verbal/emotional abuse?

By: Nemesis

Nemesis — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:44:20 +0000

Joe, I had my sweetie grab me a copy based upon your IF Reads post, and I re-read it last week. I am so glad I did, it really was my favorite of his books.

My sweetie is computer smart, but refuses to read. Just the opposite of me, I prefer to read, even online I like to read my news, so I never click on the video links.

Your friend couple sounds familiar. If he speaks German, tell him I agree that we’ll all come to the garden alone.

By: Joe Vandal

Joe Vandal — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:21:48 +0000

I grabbed an extra copy of that Fahrenheit 451 at the library last week to take to a friend’s house. The wife reads a lot, the husband refuses to read at all! He is super smart and completely literate, actually perfectly fluent in two languages, has excellent penmanship, but he for some reason just does not like to read at all. He once talked about a salesman who kept trying to send sales materials, and how he kept telling the salesman to send a DVD of their promotional materials because he wouldn’t read the materials. Very strange….

But the point of this was that when I came in their house and said I had a book present for them, he said, “why, so we can burn the book?”, which I said that’s pretty funny you say that given the story of Fahrenheit 451.

I’m a little over 1/2 way through Fahrenheit 451 now, he just had the big confrontation with his wife’s friends in their parlor. It gets more interesting when you get past the first 40 pages.

By: Nemesis

Nemesis — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:11:21 +0000

Yeah, when they fireproofed everything in “Fahrenheit 451″ they had no use for firemen anymore…until they realized they could burn books (books made you think, and who needs THAT in a populace?) so then the firemen had jobs again, burning illegal stashes of books!

Yay, us! We find ways to make lemonade out of ALL of life’s troubles. (No, wait…maybe Soylent Green?)

By: Crystal

Crystal — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 04:42:04 +0000

But a real thing of beauty. Making everything illegal creates employment and stimulates the economy!