What about Larry Lyon?
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I wanted to start this discussion a few times since Larry Lyon’s reported police scuffle last week, but I wondered how much of an issue it really was, and if anyone really wanted to talk about it. I’ve seen a few people asking in the chatbox about it, so I thought I would post this (since it is definitely local).
For anyone living in a cave the last week, Larry Lyon’s dogs apparently got loose a few times. He was to receive a ticket for it, and verbally arranged a time for the animal control officers to meet and give him the ticket(s). It sounds like they came back earlier than the agreed-upon time and insisted on ticketing Lyon on the spot. It sounds to me like Larry got puffy with the officers, they called in regular police officers to back them up, Larry got puffy with them, and everyone kinda got puffy with each other.
Both the police department and Larry each quickly ran to the local news with their sides of the story, and then Halli Stone published a 13 second video clip from Larry’s cell phone of the incident. Nothing much has been said since then, so I imagine both parties are licking their wounds in their respective corners.
I tend to think this video was the first 13 seconds of a longer clip, and the end has been cut off, but what do you think?
If any video was cut off, I imagine it did not show Larry in the best way (probably losing his cool to the cops). The news reported the police had a dash camera record the whole thing, has anyone seen that?
So what do you think of this incident? What do the IFPD that visit here think of this? What do IF citizens think of this?
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0 Frankly, I’m just glad that I don’t live in city limits, so Lyon doesn’t speak for me (for the record, I would NOT have voted for him if I had lived in town…)
It’s been my experience that most law enforcement personnel are nothing but polite, until you give them a reason to not be polite. I have been on several ride-alongs with BCSO, and I’ve seen nothing but professionalism on calls where IFPD was involved (granted, I was there, and it could have changed someone’s behavior…) I also have several relatives involved in law enforcement (in So Cal, not around here) and they expressed amazement after watching the vid that Lyon was asked if he wanted to go to the ground rather than just getting taken to the ground.
I don’t know Frei, and I only know Lyon by reputation, but usually someone’s rep is earned by their actions, and I think Lyon is lucky he didn’t wind up on his face in the snow. Cops don’t get paid enough to deal with whiny elected officials who think they deserve special treatment. It’s my opinion that the vid cuts off because it shows the other side of the story.
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0 0 I thought this was another of those ‘Larry-isms’ where it barely borders on being public. Like when the PR reported he was late on some building payments. Like when the PR reported his wife accused him of viewing porn on their computer. (Have any other news outlets besides the PR reported these things?)
These things make you shake your head in wonder at the man, but I’m not sure these really relate to him as a public officeholder. Maybe they do? This last one is disconcerting, if Larry really blew his cool on it.
I heard that Larry once told Mayor Linda Milam to ’shut up’ during a city council meeting, and he tried grabbing the gavel? This must have happened when I was going to college, I never heard of it before.
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0 0 Looks like the story about his confrontation with the former library director really was as bad as they said it was. When it occured Trish and Holli really down played it and made it sound like the director and another employee were overstating things trying to make him look bad, but with all the happenings lately with him I believe their side of the story. They said he was swearing at them dropping the F bomb and was so threatening they called the police on him.
Looks like this tigers stripes are quite plain for all to see.
Now the question who is going to take his seat?
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0 0 why dosen’t the city get rid of this guy? He obviously has some serious issues. Where there is smoke there certainly must be fire. Can a member of the council be “recalled?” From what has gone on with this mess, its obvious there is a problem. Its with the Police Department or the Council member — but there IS a problem. Time for someone in a position of authority in the city to stand up and do something about it. Get rid of that idiot before he gets himself and the city into some real trouble.
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0 0 He is an elected official, don’t think the city can do anything, vote him out in November
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0 0 Joe, I would guess the video is in the middle of the confrontation. Mr. Lyon’s voice sounds pretty stressed. By the way I just happened to be at the council meeting the night Mr. Lyon told Mayor Milam to shut up. It was definitely uncalled for, and I was appalled at his immature behavior. As far as getting rid of this guy as stated above, he is up for election this November and I hope the citizens of IF will elect someone who can work together with the rest of the council instead of trying to grandstand and make himself look good.
I also have some people I know that work in several city departments, and all of them say no one in their department wants to even talk with this councilman.
One last item, could someone check and see on this item….It seems that a few years ago when there was the big to do about the bobcat thing or ordinance or whatever….I seem to remember Mr. Lyon being quoted or saying something t the effect that the biggest problem in this city wasn’t rare animals or bobcats, rather the biggest problem in the city was dogs running loose. Kind of ironic if true, no? Do you suppose theyu still have the tapes or transcripts from that council meeting?
Thanks for a great website…..
I for one am looking forward to November.
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0 0 If the “shut up” situation really happened….would it not show up on transcripts or recordings of the meeting?? I’d be interested to know.
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0 0 If the “shut up†situation really happened….would it not show up on transcripts or recordings of the meeting?? I’d be interested to know.
Council meetings are not transcribed. They’re summarized in official minutes, and that statement definitely wouldn’t merit inclusion in the minutes.
It will certainly have been recorded, but I’m not sure how long recordings are (or were then) kept.
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0 0 Wouldn’t it have been reported in the Post Register? Anyone remember this alleged incident?
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0 0 Speakout,
You made a very strong statement when you said that both “do not deserve the positions they have in the community”, as a self described former officer, do you have any self known facts to back yourself up or are these just more of your personal attack opinions?
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0 0 I understand the fact that Mr. Lyons has created his own embarassing track record, but what have the police involved in his latest event done to deserve speakouts insults? I know officers who write citations everyday who have never had the citizen shove a video camera in their faces. I hear that Mr. Lyons also took a long phone call in the middle of the situation and finished up by saying, “I’m going to record this and we will see how Idaho Falls finest opperates.” It looks like this was just another premeditated event, created my Mr. Lyons to try to either discredit the police or somehow help his re-election. Oops, he did it again!!
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0 0 Larry said it all when he accused the police of trying to hurt him during his election year, he has lost so many supporters I believe he just used this to get attention. He is a very weird boy (notice I say boy), he dresses like a skater.
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0 0 This is veering off topic, but…
What is wrong with dressing like a skater?
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0 0 Nothing, I think their great, he just seems a bit old. He shows up at city council like that.
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0 0 ahh, now that is different. Even my raggedy, tattoo’d self would have the common sense to go to a city council meeting in some dockers and a dress shirt…
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0 0 Justwondering,
fact: It is no secret that Lyon and Livsey hate each other. When officers use Lyon’s name to pull April fools jokes on the chief, or when Lyon gets an armed escort out of the IFPD, you know there is an issue.
fact: Sgt F has been a Sgt for way too long. When other Sgts are getting promoted all around him, many with 1/3 the time in stripes that he has, you know there is a problem.
Fact: Sgt F hitched his wagon to a capt. who no longer has the chief’s ear. Right now his career is dead in the water.
Fact: any police officer worth his salt, would have seen the writing on the wall when called to Lyon’s house. They would have recognized they were heading for trouble. That’s supposedly why the officers receive training to deal with such situations to keep things from getting out of control.
Lyon is an idiot of great renown but that makes it all the more important to deal with him above his level. The officer could have issued the citation without his signature. All a signature says is that the cited party will appear in court. Despite the fact that this is a city misdemeanor, he could have been cited without his script.
They could have asked for a warrant. They could have done many things that would have the public saying “Wow, the cops sure were cool on that one.” But they did not.
Larry’s ID? Why? They know who he is. If they need info for a citation, he is in the files with all the needed information. No need to hammer the point. That was just a power play between two sides. Let larry win, at least let him think he has won. then call dispatch, have them open Larry’s police records and transmit the needed info to fill out your little form.
There is no need to relate “personal” experiences with Sgt F. It is well know that he has issues with his authority. I can just imagine the thought of bagging Larry Lyon and making it on the chief’ A list again.
What’s really interesting is what has been going on at the IFPD since many officers have been posting here. I have heard from several that this site is now blocked, even though many of the computers at the station are not web accessible. I was informed that there was an unofficial head hunt on to find the identity of posters here, whether active or not. The IFPD know they can’t do much about it, but any active officer caught posting would feel the wrath in other ways. As it is, some suspects are being shunned, even though they don’t post here.
the other interesting piece of info was that there may be some who are posting here trying to sniff out the posters and get them to reveal information about themselves to help the administration Id them. So when someone one asked me about “personal” experiences I have to laugh and figure you are fishing. Plus I have seen postings where certain officers have been named outright in ways that look like they are designed to get a response that may cause posters to trip up and reveal who they are, or at least which click they belong to, or used to run with.
No biggie to me. This post centered around the actions of both the police and Lyon. I said they both acted incorrectly according to each’s station. I stand by that. And for your information, even in little old Idaho falls, there have been several times when civilians have been seen videoing cops. I remember several incidents well, and all we did is make sure they did not interfere with our duties. If you are doing nothing wrong the video helps you, not hinders you. Sure some of them were acting like a…holes but hey, that’s the job. You can rise above it, or you can sink down to their level. With all of the options IFPD had, they could have risen above this. The only thing that saved them here, was that Lyon is well established as a jerk and has little sympathy.It still does not make the actions of Sgt F acceptable.
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0 0 Those sound like good and valid points, Speakout.
I stopped into Joe Cawley’s (spell?) office one day and asked him about that. He was able to load IdahoFallz.com up in front of me without any problems. I realize he probably has admin privileges, however he did indicate that most cops had had their entire web access restricted, not just particular sites. Obviously I don’t know the whole story there, but I have no reason not to believe what he told me.
“… there was an unofficial head hunt on to find the identity of posters here, whether active or not. The IFPD know they can’t do much about it, but any active officer caught posting would feel the wrath in other ways. As it is, some suspects are being shunned, even though they don’t post here.”
Now that would be an interesting news story, because posting here is a freedom of speech right. Unfortunately probably not provable, unless a couple of officers spoke with a reporter anonymously about it. Teresa Priolo at KIDK would be a good source if any officers had information on that.
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0 0 Speakout
First I’m not a cop, but I do have some comments. If you are retired and stand by your words why would you remain anomynous? You seem to attack the police a lot and many times by name. You no doubt have made your own share of mistakes or you would stand up to a fair fight. This site may have some merits but when you start throwing out names it becomes pure gossip. A while back the Chief had an open chat on the Post Register, yes I’ve seen your comments there also. I expected to see you in that discusion. The fact that you (or FeelinLucky) were not a part make me thnk you don’t want you gripes addressed or perhaps they have no merit.
By the way what rank did you and feelinlucky make?
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0 0 Humm, back to you buddy. what’s your real name? It’s not humm I can bet you that. But just for your information, here is a list of everyone I can think of from several blogs who have posted negative comments about IFPD.
Anonymous (of course)
ex if cop
Chiasm
inside observer
more to add
guest
formerpd
rumour
feelinlucky
following with curiosity
flyonthewall
knows
current if pd
street survivor
concerned if cop
amother if cop
ashamed if cop
debbie
guest9999
What are their real names? All of these posters have at some point made remarks about the IFPD that are not flattering. Many of them mention names as well. I have mentioned some names but not many. If you were to do your homework, you would see I have praised more officers by name than any other poster here. The names I have mentioned negatively have remained constant and few in number. And my criticisms remain consistent throughout.
Maybe that’s why I don’t change my moniker when the heat picks up. I have no qualms about people researching my comments to see if I am as consistent as I can be. What burns me is when people don’t go back and read ALL OF MY POSTS, and try to trump me based on little to no background knowledge.
Obviously you are snooping to see who I may be. I don’t know where you get the idea I retired, but maybe I did. Or maybe I work in law enforcement else where. maybe I don’t. maybe I hang around the IFPD and officers pass on info to me, and I post it here.
As for the PR’s little Livsey ploy, I never heard about it until the last minute. the PR didn’t really attempt to publish it did they. If I had known I probably would have got online if my schedule permitted. But what would have been the point. Do you really think JK would have been openly honest about things. If you go back and read other postings, you will see there are issues with the man.
Sorry, but I have some strong feelings about the IFPD. It centers more around officers still there and the way they get treated. I know that if my identity were known, my friends there would pay a price. But I can promise you that I have no reservations of telling JK my opinion if and when I meet him on the street.
By the way, Sgt F’s name wasn’t just thrown out on this thread. He was involved in the situation, and was named publicly. That’s not gossip. As far as what I wrote about him, well, it is some parts informational, and some parts opinion. But I trust that readers here have the ability to sift out one from the other, and then you can judge it for what it is worth.
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0 0 I know that in the scheme of things I am a FNG here, but I’ve gotten the impression that Speakout is an advocate FOR our local police force. He sees things that are affecting them, and says something about it. When he sees something good happening, he says something about it.
Why does his name matter? Why does anyone’s name here matter? Some people (like me, for instance) don’t care if people know who they are. Others are more concerned about anonymity. Is it really that difficult to respect that? The comments made here are all opinions, they are protected by free speech. If someone chooses to remain anonymous, then it is only to protect themselves and their friends from bigotry by people who fear those who have the courage to speak the truth as they see it.
This article is about Lyon and his incident with the IFPD. I agree with Speakout’s assertation that both Lyon and IFPD dropped the ball on this one. Lyon will get whats coming to him come election time.
But, that brings me to a bigger issue. We expect our peace officers to deal with the lowest of the low, the dregs of society, on a CONSTANT basis. Then, we, the public, have the nerve to be suprised and outraged when an officer loses his cool. Guess what folks, they are human. They are fallible. But, I still support them, and I always will.
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0 0 Speakout
“Obviously you are snooping to see who I may be”. Nope I’m not and I’m sure I wouldn’t know who you were even if you gave your name nor do I care who you are. In fact if I were that interested I would have gone back and read all your post.
My point was you obviously know Sgt Frei, throw out your insults then don’t provide a fair playing field.
My point in asking what rank you held was in response to your comment regarding his rank, (which I noticed you never answered) and that says something in itself.
My idea that you retired came from gossip in prior postings.
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0 0 I have to agree with Speakout on the zero notice of Chief Livesey’s online chat. The PR promoted Roger Plothow’s chat for week’s beforehand, and promoted Chief Livesey’s chat only on the morning of.
I don’t know if it was planned or the PR forgot to promote it sooner. The PR has been good about setting the record straight on IFz when people say things about the PR, so we will have to see if they can comment on that.
I kicked myself when I found out afterwards, because I wanted to specifically ask him about the numerous criticisms leveled against him here. I also wondered about the non-promotion of his online chat.
I’ll defend anyone’s right to remain anonymous here. One of the core concepts of IFz was to give a place for people to talk honestly without having to divulge their identity (a common criticism of the PR).
I understand why the PR requires identity for their L2tE, but here we do not. The quality of the speech is more important here than who the speaker is. Agree or disagree, that is a core concept here that is not going to change. Kvetch about it to no avail, or move onto the actual discussion.
I don’t know if any of Speakout’s or any other (numerous) city officials’ talk and allegations are true. The way to find out is to dig at the police department, not to dig out someone’s identity here. (I think they call that a witch hunt.)
If you have proof to the contrary, I strongly encourage you to post that evidence. I strongly discourage anyone from basing their argument on attacking the messenger (sheesh Bush’s team already burned up that play).
Has anyone yet heard the purported police officer’s tape? I have heard it was about 30 minutes, and that you can listen to it at the station downtown if you just ask. It sounds far-fetched to me, but has anyone done this?
I think that tape is the other side that we all need to hear.
Here’s a question I have not heard anyone ask: What good has Larry Lyon done for Idaho Falls?
I hear all these stories about him butting heads with everyone and their assistant, but what has he done for IF? Has he introduced any rules or ordinances, has he uncovered any corruption, has he actually done anything besides grate against everyone else?
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0 0 buddy, humm,
Frei’s rank is important in the fact that he is the supervisor and ultimately has responsibility to not only control the situation, but set an example as well. It’s not a hit and run. Anyone, including you can refute what I have to say. Then it’s a lier’s contest isn’t it? that’s when you put your faith in the public to make the decision.
I know that I get passionate at times about the IFPD. But I love some of those guys like my own brother. They deal with the nasty and the low day in and day out. They don’t need to deal with it within their own walls as well , and they do so on a daily basis. They can’t speak out, so I do. Because I served side by side with them, and never once let an officer go without assistance when they called for help, I have real emotional attachment to the men in blue.
The IFPD is just like most other police agencies when it comes to in house B.S. but that doesn’t mean it needs to go on and on. A select few have taken over our police department and I can see the deterioration first hand. It’s not fair to our officers, and it’s not right for our community.
I have held numerous positions of rank throughout my various careers and I know the strains of command. I also know the strengths that make good commanders. those strengths are beginning to disappear at the IFPD.
I was asked by one officer to not mention him by name in a good way anymore because he was catching some grief for it. He should have been commended for at least getting a grumpy dingaling like me to say something good about IFPD.
I don’t think your snooping, but I truly mean it when I say my friends at the IFPD will catch crap if I come out. So I will remain “Speakout”, but I will not change my posting moniker. That way I am accountable for everything I ever posted.
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0 0 Nice break up Joe,
I have nothing against being anomynous but I do have sympathy for the person being ridiculed. Larry Lyon asked for trouble by not taking care of his dogs. Sgt Frei just did his job. His privacy is aleady breached so he can’t defend himself without letting on who he is. Nor can he comment on Speakouts “opinions” without revealing who he is. Hurray for free speech but what about deflamation of character.
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0 0 How do you know he isn’t posting under an anonymous moniker? Anyone can post here, even Frei.
But Sgt Frei didn’t just do his job. Part of his job is keeping his cool. Part of his job is looking ahead to what his actions may develop into later down the road.
And so far the only person yelling about defamation is you. There’s no defamation of character here. I stated actual fact and added opinion to it as well. You may not like my opinion, and you may not like my facts, but they are both within reason.
I know cops deal with a lot of scumbags but that doesn’t mean they get a free “get to lose your cool” card for each jerk they don’t lose their cool with. I wish we could, I would have had 000’s of them.
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0 0 I am the city editor at the Post Register and the one who invited Chief Livsey to chat online.
We promoted it for a week beforehand and were surprised when only a few people participated.
That said it was also around the holidays when people are busy so the timing could have been better.
We are planning more chats, including one with Larry Lyon. He has agreed to do it. We just need to find a time that works with his schedule and ours.
As far as the Live Wire chat with Livsey being a “ploy” that wasn’t the intent at all.
We felt it would give people a chance to ask Livsey their own questions in their own words.
Those asking questions were required to register, but their identities were not revealed to Livsey.
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0 0 Long time no post.
Lyon is an idiot. I think we can all agree and all be thankful this is the year the Lyon is slain in the election. The police probably could have handled it better but many are also using 20/20 hindsight.
The IFPD as I’ve said many times has good things and bad things. It has some great officers, some good officer, some bad officers, and some really bad officers. In otherwords its no different than most police departments. From what I can see from where I’m at which is close but not within things aren’t rosy right now in terms of morale but they’ve been worse. The real problems from what I hear are in dispatch where a lot of good dispatchers have quit or transferred due to hostile work conditions.
The next couple of years are going to determine the future of the IFPD. The chief, two captains, and likely two lieutentants will be gone within 2 to 3 years due to retirement. The new chief and promotions that follow will set the tone for the next ten to twenty years. That has the potential for greatness or disaster depending on those promotions.
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0 0 I guess I was busy during that time also, because I only saw one promotion the day after (I read the paper I had missed the day before). Thanks for setting the record straight, Kortney.
I keep seeing those 911 dispatcher job positions advertised in the paper. I’ve heard their job is normally difficult and underpaid anyways. Hopefully the “hostile conditions” can be alleviated for the public good.
So there still hasn’t been a single thing identified that Larry has done good for Idaho Falls yet? I’m sure he would list serving on various committees, etc.
However, has there been any ordinances he’s proposed that were passed? Has there been anything significant that Larry has done for Idaho Falls since he became councilman?
Beuhler? Beuhler?
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0 0 Edited by Site Admin; We will not tolerate outright bullying of other site visitors who wish to remain anonymous, and it certainly doesn’t add value to the discussion.
Larry Lyon got what he had coming to him. You of all people should know that when dealing with a bully like him sometimes you have to dominate the conversation. Thats what happened as far as I have seen. I would have been ok with the police putting him on the ground if they had had to, and it was warranted by his behavior.
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0 0 Joe, you apparently have your favorites. Just what have speakout’s lies and personal attacks (bullying)added to the conversation? It must be nice for you to be able to pick and choose.
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0 0 Mr. Lyon has upset the status quo and there are some people who don’t like to see things change. Larry is an instrument for change and he is a great addition to the Idaho Falls community. Huzzah!!!!
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0 0 Wow what was all that about?
Speakout,
Hey I like grumpy dingalings and humility is a wonderful thing. I just thought you were being unfair. And I give you credit regarding the moniker.
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0 0 Radman,
Just what has Mr. Lyon done to upset the status quo? He makes unsubstantiated claims of corruption, he wastes a tremendous amount of everyone’s time. Time that translates into taxpayer’s money, time which employees could have spent serving the public instead of Lyon’s ego. What change has he spearheaded? I will be interested in your response as I think everyone else on this thread will be.
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0 0 Hey anonymous, Joe’s edited my comments in the past too. Don’t get bent about it. It’s his site and he keeps it respectable. I recognize that, even when he has hit the delete button on me. I have never seen him play favorites. Your accusations against him are unwarranted.
Buddy, I appreciate what you are saying. But I don’t think I am wrong about this. However, our disagreement has been civil and I have to give you that.
Others, I don’t care how bad a bully Larry Lyon is, it’s no excuse for cops to be bullies too. What if this was a 60 year old woman? Would you still be rallying to take her to the ground? If anyone can prove that Larry actually threatened a police officer with bodily harm, I’ll jump ship and retract my statements. I can eat crow, but you have to cook it up for me first. Otherwise you too are just a bunch of bullies. Just like Larry. Yeh, a lot of you hate the man, so you want to see him get his butt kicked. Good for you. I hope none of you ever get the chance to strap on a badge and a gun. God forbid.
Good things Larry’s done? I give him kudos for the Dale Storer incident. He went about it wrong, but there are questions about Storer’s contract with the city. And just because all of the department heads hate him, doesn’t mean it’s a bad thing. Maybe Larry is poking under rocks that have been left unturned for too long. The man will never succeed in changing the status quo, but maybe someone else, who has tact will come along and keep the pressure on. I don’t support him though. That’s up to his lap dog who sends in the letters to the PR all the time.
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0 0 I would have to second the comments regarding Lyon being willing to go against the status quo. Ya can’t fight city hall! Well, he may not have written a ton of legislation, he may be rough around the edges, but I, for one, will always admire someone’s willingness to stand up for what he believes. This town has been on a downward spiral, very gradually, for years. Why? Because no one wanted to upset the apple cart. “Let’s just all get along.” “I’ll scratch your back if you scratch mine.” Crapola! I would also conjecture that part of his attitude problem lies in that he is getting no support for his efforts. The Storer thing was a real gem. But we got one story from the PR out of it and after that - nothing. In that case, at least, he was right on the mark and nothing happened. We all just sat in our armchairs, typing away on IFz. How many calls were made to the city council demanding that Storer be put under contract? How many letters? I don’t know Larry so I can’t speak about whether or not this is actually what’s up with him, but I do know that when I pound my head on a wall over and over and over again in complete futility, it give me a headache and makes me cranky!
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0 0 Inside Observer I believe Storer is under contract with the city, in fact I think that is what Lyon was making a fuss about. He doesn’t like Storer and didn’t like the contract. Nothing wrong with not liking a contract, that is why the council votes on everything. You do have to wonder though when there are a lot of five to one votes on issues.
I also respect someone who stands up for what they believe, I am just not convinced that Lyon does that, more often than not it appears he is contrary simply to be contrary.
Finally, my understanding is that it isn’t just the department heads that don’t like him, it is the also the employees who don’t want anything to do with him either. When he is around they can’t get their jobs done.
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0 0 I can appreciate that Lyon raised the Dale Storer contract issue. It does sound hokey that it has not been independently reviewed, and that he earns city benefits when other city contractors are not granted the same benefits. In fact, that situation raises the prospect of a lawsuit against our fair city.
I questioned why the Mayor and others opposed Lyon at that meeting on the Storer contract issue. I have heard since then that it was not the issue so much but that everyone tries to keep a tight leash on Larry.
If he has antagonized his city hall colleagues to the extreme that he cannot even conduct simple questioning sessions with them, it sounds like he has burned himself out of effectiveness as our representative.
Again I ask: what positive action has Larry Lyon done for Idaho Falls?
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0 0 Sometimes rocking the boat, even in a nonproductive manner, can initiate change
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0 0 Houston…. come in Houston… we have a problem Houston…. hmmmm…..
Lyon has his problems…like Houston.
Dulce in Spanish means sweet it can also be a girls name. Lyon is a name but also could be the past tense of a verb.
Where am I going here??? Lyon is an embarassment for sure but he would not be the first to put themselves and their family in embarassing situations. There used to be magazines that one could submitt pictures to, that could be published i’m sure some here might know what I refer to, but people do stupid things all the time Larry is no different.
My point is that “Houston” we have a problem, and that the “Hunt” is on for the Dulce vida. Lyon will be Lyon and we will ALL be what we are and we all can’t hide from the past.
So lets let Larry finish out the rest of this year and then he will be nothing more then a footnote. And the rest of us can continue taking our shots…..Right????
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0 0 Larry Lyon looks under rocks that the city would like to leave unturned. Examples are Dale Storer’s contract, the dissolving of the airport committe, and the resignation of the library director immediately following the investigation by the city. None of these things would have come to light without Larry bringing attention to them. Most of the “good old boys” at city hall hate Larry and with good reason, he says what he means and means what he says!
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0 0 I was rather hoping Jack you could shed some light on his dog thing…bummer
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0 0 In response to Larry’s dog incident. Don’t you think it odd that police would show up on several different occasions to deliver a simple citation? Larry uspset Livsey and others in the animal control department by sitting in on the grievance hearing of former animal control employee Kris Carlson. He also did not back the new animal control ordinance that was passed last year. It is very obvious he was being targeted and harrassed. We are not talking about vicious animals being released on the streets of I.F. just some family pets who got out.
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0 0 Flyonthewall,
Your post cracked me up. You are right on. Sometimes Houston’s problems can be as close as the girl next door. I’m down with it.
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0 0 I watched the news reports of Mr. Lyon’s dogs being out. It appears that the neighbors don’t seem to think the dogs are harmless. It also appearred that this was not the first time his dogs have been out. I doubt whether Livsey has the time or inclination to “order” animal control to go after Lyon. (I also question whether animal control would do that. I mean now we are talking three or four people involved in a conpiracy, and were that true wouldn’t word leak out through some source?) I think most of the time animal control simply responds to reports from neighbors about animals being out. I wonder if they wanted to personally talk to Mr. Lyon to help ensure his dogs didn’t get out yet again.
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0 0 Halli Stone gave us an update that Larry Lyon finally posted the rest of his story on their website:
http://www.trishandhalli.com/2007/02/20/property-rights/guest-post-larry-lyon-idaho-falls-police-department-part-ii/
I don’t want to copy any material from their site, so please visit and feel free to comment on what you think of his side of the story.
He sure throws out some big challenges to the individual officer Frei and to Chief Livesy.
What do you think?
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0 0 Okay, so according to Mr. Lyon this isn’t about the dog tickets. So what would have happened if he had just given the animal control officer his license or whatever they had asked for? None of this would have happened, right? I mean now it looks like Mr. Lyon is saying that a meeting with a newspaper reporter is more important than obeying a request from a law enforcement officer. That idea alone is cause for concern when coming from an elected official. It makes it sound as if he thinks the laws apply to everyone else but only to him when he has time. Scary thought, no?
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0 0 I still think it was a bad idea to argue and fight giving his license. I believe you put your life on hold for a few moments when cops need to talk to you, maybe I respect them more than Mr. Lyon.
As for the inconsistency with his license, so what? How often have you witnessed inconsistent behavior in asking for identification at stores? Different employees are trained differently, some will think it’s okay to do without and some will think they need to verify the information (even if on record).
What was the point of fighting it? What could he have gained? What has he lost because of it?
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0 0 I love the context-based Google Ads. The one I am reading on this thread advertises “Police Officer Training” school.
The PR is advertising another live chat, next Thursday evening March 1st, with none other than City Councilman Larry Lyon.
It appears to be from 7-9PM, and the address is at chat.postregister.com.
They are free to participate. I have heard pre-registration is better.
I hope nobody is rude in the chat, but what are some questions you might ask Larry?
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0 0 I would ask Lyon if he has any evidence to back up his strong accusations found in part II of his side of the story posted on trish&halli.com… Frankly, I doubt it.
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0 0 What are the media source(s) and date(s) that talk about Larry Lyon and his wife accusing him of porn addiction?
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This is great. The biggest instigator on the city council and one of the biggest egomaniacs from the IFPD matching wits. Too bad the dash camera will probably not show anything. But the tape would prove interesting to listen to. Maybe the PR should FOIA it and print the transcript.
Sgt. Frei is priceless with his Dirty Harry imitation. “You want to go down?” Althgough, it isn’t nearly as classic as “There’s just one question you gotta ask yourself. Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya , punk!?”
Neither one of them deserve the position they hold in our community. But they would be create as a Laurel and Hardy act.