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	<title>Comments on: Rex Rammell Puts His Interests Before Idaho&#8217;s</title>
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		<title>By: slu2</title>
		<link>http://www.idahofallstoday.com/2006/09/14/rex-rammell-puts-his-interests-before-idahos/#comment-32032</link>
		<dc:creator>slu2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 20:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone has to be better than Otter.   I&#039;d consider him more, once he comes clean on what his stance is on a few policies.   I&#039;d like to see him interviewed more, and asked more about his politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone has to be better than Otter.   I&#8217;d consider him more, once he comes clean on what his stance is on a few policies.   I&#8217;d like to see him interviewed more, and asked more about his politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 06:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The guy is a veterinarian and penned up animals to charge people to shoot them. He is a loser in every sense of the word. 

Arrogant and obnoxious - he&#039;s cost Idaho taxpayers a lot of money for his selfish ways. 

He should shut up and disappear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guy is a veterinarian and penned up animals to charge people to shoot them. He is a loser in every sense of the word. </p>
<p>Arrogant and obnoxious &#8211; he&#8217;s cost Idaho taxpayers a lot of money for his selfish ways. </p>
<p>He should shut up and disappear.</p>
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		<title>By: Bloop</title>
		<link>http://www.idahofallstoday.com/2006/09/14/rex-rammell-puts-his-interests-before-idahos/#comment-32018</link>
		<dc:creator>Bloop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 23:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When he ran for Senate in 2008, the man got only 197 votes in his home county, compared to Risch&#039;s 9,552. And frankly, he had the same policies then as he does now, except he&#039;s found the new soapbox of no gas tax. I&quot;m no big fan of Otter or Risch myself, but I&#039;d rather see either of them in Boise than Rammell, regular guy or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When he ran for Senate in 2008, the man got only 197 votes in his home county, compared to Risch&#8217;s 9,552. And frankly, he had the same policies then as he does now, except he&#8217;s found the new soapbox of no gas tax. I&#8221;m no big fan of Otter or Risch myself, but I&#8217;d rather see either of them in Boise than Rammell, regular guy or not.</p>
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		<title>By: AppleJack</title>
		<link>http://www.idahofallstoday.com/2006/09/14/rex-rammell-puts-his-interests-before-idahos/#comment-32009</link>
		<dc:creator>AppleJack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 20:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.idahostatesman.com/localnews/story/769817.html
http://rexrammell.com/about.aspx

I don&#039;t think he has all the answers.  No one candidate ever does, but I&#039;d give him a chance over re-electing Otter or Risch.</description>
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<p>I don&#8217;t think he has all the answers.  No one candidate ever does, but I&#8217;d give him a chance over re-electing Otter or Risch.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 20:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only reason he is running is because he&#039;s pissed at Risch for declaring open season on his elk.  He didn&#039;t round them up fast enough - and really they shouldn&#039;t have gotten out.  I will never vote for him because his only motive for running (as far as I&#039;m concerned) is Risch taking away the temporary protection of the elk that he extended.  Rex failed to keep gather them up in a timely manner, so he called the hunters in.

I don&#039;t give a damn what his policies are, I care about why he&#039;s running in the first place.  The tea party folk kicked his ass off the stage for a reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only reason he is running is because he&#8217;s pissed at Risch for declaring open season on his elk.  He didn&#8217;t round them up fast enough &#8211; and really they shouldn&#8217;t have gotten out.  I will never vote for him because his only motive for running (as far as I&#8217;m concerned) is Risch taking away the temporary protection of the elk that he extended.  Rex failed to keep gather them up in a timely manner, so he called the hunters in.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t give a damn what his policies are, I care about why he&#8217;s running in the first place.  The tea party folk kicked his ass off the stage for a reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
		<link>http://www.idahofallstoday.com/2006/09/14/rex-rammell-puts-his-interests-before-idahos/#comment-32007</link>
		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 19:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do agree that the country needs less politicians and more regular guys. 

And since, as I stated, I&#039;m not good at following politics, what are the views that he has that make him stand out to you as someone that you would vote for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree that the country needs less politicians and more regular guys. </p>
<p>And since, as I stated, I&#8217;m not good at following politics, what are the views that he has that make him stand out to you as someone that you would vote for?</p>
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		<title>By: AppleJack</title>
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		<dc:creator>AppleJack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 19:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that too many people are still concerned about his elk farm which has been history for some time, than what his actual views are.  Whether or not you agree with him having an elk farm shouldn&#039;t cloud your views towards what he wants to bring to the table politically.  I too didn&#039;t agree with his elk farm but I do think he&#039;d be a good governor because he wouldn&#039;t be your typical politician.  We&#039;ve got enough politicians out there, give the regular guy a chance I say.  Look at what Jesse Ventura did for Minnesota and what Arnold Swartzenager did for California, not to mention Ronal Regan.  Not politicians, just regular guys making a difference.  This country needs more of that imho.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that too many people are still concerned about his elk farm which has been history for some time, than what his actual views are.  Whether or not you agree with him having an elk farm shouldn&#8217;t cloud your views towards what he wants to bring to the table politically.  I too didn&#8217;t agree with his elk farm but I do think he&#8217;d be a good governor because he wouldn&#8217;t be your typical politician.  We&#8217;ve got enough politicians out there, give the regular guy a chance I say.  Look at what Jesse Ventura did for Minnesota and what Arnold Swartzenager did for California, not to mention Ronal Regan.  Not politicians, just regular guys making a difference.  This country needs more of that imho.</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 19:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this actual post is outdated, but I have an opinion that was just achin&#039; to escape.

I can&#039;t believe that someone with as much bad press as Rammell is even bothering running for office. Nearly every news story about him regarding his candidacy is flanked by another story somewhere in the paper about him doing something negative.

I personally will never vote for this man for anything because I totally disagree with his &quot;fish in a barrell&quot; elk farm. I know that is said and done (I hope so anyway) but I feel very strongly that the whole concept is wrong. I rarely have strong feelings one way or another about a politician because I don&#039;t understand politics or follow it as closely as I probably should, but I would not vote for this man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this actual post is outdated, but I have an opinion that was just achin&#8217; to escape.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe that someone with as much bad press as Rammell is even bothering running for office. Nearly every news story about him regarding his candidacy is flanked by another story somewhere in the paper about him doing something negative.</p>
<p>I personally will never vote for this man for anything because I totally disagree with his &#8220;fish in a barrell&#8221; elk farm. I know that is said and done (I hope so anyway) but I feel very strongly that the whole concept is wrong. I rarely have strong feelings one way or another about a politician because I don&#8217;t understand politics or follow it as closely as I probably should, but I would not vote for this man.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolke</title>
		<link>http://www.idahofallstoday.com/2006/09/14/rex-rammell-puts-his-interests-before-idahos/#comment-17285</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not a fan of private hunts.
If you remember Gov. Otter&#039;s campaign he was on someone&#039;s land with a small boy killing a prized Elk bull.
Gov. Otter was elected by all of you hunters.
What I do not understand that any of you would allow the government to come into your house and seek and seize your property.
According to Gov Risch he felt he met the government mandate of 7 days to do just that to Rex Rammell.

No one judges you on the way you live and when the Governor, Gov. Risch in this case does not even understand that Fish and Game does not regulate Rex Rammell&#039;s farm is just plain wrong.

Gov Risch was a glory seeker and wanted to do anything to make his 7 months in office a mark in history.

What I challange the readers today is this: Gov Risch added a one cent tax to all the readers.
This tax was voted down by all the hunters and voters of Idaho.

Guess what, the one penny tax has no home but the general fund.

Why are we not all doing something about this. It effects all of us.

I am working on this procedure of special session and then taxation is purely illegal.

For all the folks that wrote a comment on Rex Rammell asking for him to be put in jail without any facts. Why are you not asking Lt. Gov Jim Risch for his termination of office?

He is not being terminated and he is asking for you to make him the next Senator of Idaho.

He was looking for a little news to get your attention in eastern Idaho.

I guess he got your attention and you wish to punish your fellow neighbor instead of a professional politcal candidate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a fan of private hunts.<br />
If you remember Gov. Otter&#8217;s campaign he was on someone&#8217;s land with a small boy killing a prized Elk bull.<br />
Gov. Otter was elected by all of you hunters.<br />
What I do not understand that any of you would allow the government to come into your house and seek and seize your property.<br />
According to Gov Risch he felt he met the government mandate of 7 days to do just that to Rex Rammell.</p>
<p>No one judges you on the way you live and when the Governor, Gov. Risch in this case does not even understand that Fish and Game does not regulate Rex Rammell&#8217;s farm is just plain wrong.</p>
<p>Gov Risch was a glory seeker and wanted to do anything to make his 7 months in office a mark in history.</p>
<p>What I challange the readers today is this: Gov Risch added a one cent tax to all the readers.<br />
This tax was voted down by all the hunters and voters of Idaho.</p>
<p>Guess what, the one penny tax has no home but the general fund.</p>
<p>Why are we not all doing something about this. It effects all of us.</p>
<p>I am working on this procedure of special session and then taxation is purely illegal.</p>
<p>For all the folks that wrote a comment on Rex Rammell asking for him to be put in jail without any facts. Why are you not asking Lt. Gov Jim Risch for his termination of office?</p>
<p>He is not being terminated and he is asking for you to make him the next Senator of Idaho.</p>
<p>He was looking for a little news to get your attention in eastern Idaho.</p>
<p>I guess he got your attention and you wish to punish your fellow neighbor instead of a professional politcal candidate.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Vandal</title>
		<link>http://www.idahofallstoday.com/2006/09/14/rex-rammell-puts-his-interests-before-idahos/#comment-15970</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Vandal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Ferguson, of what turns out to be called the Velvet Elk Ranch, quickly responded with a PR editorial today. 

He didn&#039;t come out and admit he had been dumping the carcasses (and certainly didn&#039;t apologize for it), but said as of now and in the future they will be disposing of the guts in a safer matter. He realizes the danger the guts cause in attracting grizzlies and said he will not be part of the problem.

It&#039;s nice to see someone make a change that benefits everyone in the area, rather than being bull-headed about their rights or irresponsibilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Ferguson, of what turns out to be called the Velvet Elk Ranch, quickly responded with a PR editorial today. </p>
<p>He didn&#8217;t come out and admit he had been dumping the carcasses (and certainly didn&#8217;t apologize for it), but said as of now and in the future they will be disposing of the guts in a safer matter. He realizes the danger the guts cause in attracting grizzlies and said he will not be part of the problem.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s nice to see someone make a change that benefits everyone in the area, rather than being bull-headed about their rights or irresponsibilities.</p>
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		<title>By: JoseCuervo</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoseCuervo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One would think common sense would tell you to either burn them or bury them.  Just dumping them not only attracts bears it also causes disease to be spread by other animals that may come to feast on these remains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One would think common sense would tell you to either burn them or bury them.  Just dumping them not only attracts bears it also causes disease to be spread by other animals that may come to feast on these remains.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Vandal</title>
		<link>http://www.idahofallstoday.com/2006/09/14/rex-rammell-puts-his-interests-before-idahos/#comment-15952</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Vandal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good information.

To dump the guts out on the grounds outside his compound seems to communicate a great deal about how little concern he has for his neighbors, for the entire region (in enticing bears), and his ethics in running the shooter bull operation.

Does the department of agriculture have any guidelines for how these guts should be disposed of properly, or were they leashed by the shooter bull industry?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good information.</p>
<p>To dump the guts out on the grounds outside his compound seems to communicate a great deal about how little concern he has for his neighbors, for the entire region (in enticing bears), and his ethics in running the shooter bull operation.</p>
<p>Does the department of agriculture have any guidelines for how these guts should be disposed of properly, or were they leashed by the shooter bull industry?</p>
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		<title>By: Zoltan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoltan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty sure that&#039;s correct.  I think he&#039;s the son of one of the family that started a weight loss franchise in the &#039;70&#039;s or so and sold it for multi-millions.  He&#039;s pretty used to having his own way.  When Bear World opened I recall that he got some laws changed to allow for captive bears being put on public display.  I feel sorry for the animals held prisoner there, also for the gullible people who spend money and think they are seeing wild animals.  But I digress.

The situation with the elk guts shows how little disregard Mr. Ferguson has for his neighbors and fellow human beings.  With his deep pockets, it is well within his ability to clean up the mess from his fake hunting business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure that&#8217;s correct.  I think he&#8217;s the son of one of the family that started a weight loss franchise in the &#8217;70&#8217;s or so and sold it for multi-millions.  He&#8217;s pretty used to having his own way.  When Bear World opened I recall that he got some laws changed to allow for captive bears being put on public display.  I feel sorry for the animals held prisoner there, also for the gullible people who spend money and think they are seeing wild animals.  But I digress.</p>
<p>The situation with the elk guts shows how little disregard Mr. Ferguson has for his neighbors and fellow human beings.  With his deep pockets, it is well within his ability to clean up the mess from his fake hunting business.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Vandal</title>
		<link>http://www.idahofallstoday.com/2006/09/14/rex-rammell-puts-his-interests-before-idahos/#comment-15943</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Vandal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Post Register has had an informative article and op-ed piece that illuminates a bit more trouble with the elk ranches.

Specifically, a Meadow Creek Road elk ranch somewhere around Island Park, owned by a Mike Ferguson? 

The issue is that folks are saying his ranch is dumping the elk guts outside their property, and not burying them. The big piles of elk guts are attracting bears to the area, which obviously creates related problems.

Today&#039;s PR editorial suggested this Mike Ferguson who owns the elk ranch also owns the Bear World located near Rigby? Anyone know for sure on that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Post Register has had an informative article and op-ed piece that illuminates a bit more trouble with the elk ranches.</p>
<p>Specifically, a Meadow Creek Road elk ranch somewhere around Island Park, owned by a Mike Ferguson? </p>
<p>The issue is that folks are saying his ranch is dumping the elk guts outside their property, and not burying them. The big piles of elk guts are attracting bears to the area, which obviously creates related problems.</p>
<p>Today&#8217;s PR editorial suggested this Mike Ferguson who owns the elk ranch also owns the Bear World located near Rigby? Anyone know for sure on that?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Vandal</title>
		<link>http://www.idahofallstoday.com/2006/09/14/rex-rammell-puts-his-interests-before-idahos/#comment-10668</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Vandal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After all the problems of the escaped elk and Rulon Jones&#039; capturing wild elk on his private land, after all the posturing and preening of the parties in the media, after all the hubub and talk,

the PR reports our legislature failed to pass even the most watered-down rules for these shooter bull operations.

Including all of their antics this year, this could be the biggest waste of a legislative session ever.

What a waste of a legislative session. What a waste of taxpayer money this year. What a waste of legislators. What a waste of hot air.

Can anyone see a citizen&#039;s initiative being launched to try doing what our legislators could not find the stomach to do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After all the problems of the escaped elk and Rulon Jones&#8217; capturing wild elk on his private land, after all the posturing and preening of the parties in the media, after all the hubub and talk,</p>
<p>the PR reports our legislature failed to pass even the most watered-down rules for these shooter bull operations.</p>
<p>Including all of their antics this year, this could be the biggest waste of a legislative session ever.</p>
<p>What a waste of a legislative session. What a waste of taxpayer money this year. What a waste of legislators. What a waste of hot air.</p>
<p>Can anyone see a citizen&#8217;s initiative being launched to try doing what our legislators could not find the stomach to do?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Brough</title>
		<link>http://www.idahofallstoday.com/2006/09/14/rex-rammell-puts-his-interests-before-idahos/#comment-10390</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Brough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 08:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to side with Joe on this one. Every business owner in the country has to face 

responsibility for their businesses, whether it be cleaning up hazardous waste, fixing 

OSHA violations, mending fences or what not. If Rex Rammell is in the elk farming 

business, then it&#039;s his responsibility to keep his elk penned in. The fact that a grizzly 

opened up his fence (I find that a little hard to believe) doesn&#039;t matter. It&#039;s still his 

responsibility to keep his animals in. If he runs his operation in grizzly country, then 

he should go about making his fences grizzly-proof and face the consequences when his 

animals escape, by whatever method. 
  I personally think that Gov. Risch&#039;s move was hasty, maybe uncalled for, and a bit 

asenine, but all the same, Rammell should be made to pay for his mistakes. 
  So far, no one has mentioned the $750,000 in fines that the Idaho legislature let him 

off on in the past. I&#039;ve never heard what those fines originated from, or why they let him 

off. I wonder how many politicians he had in his pocket to get that job done? 
 My opinion again: Just because of all the uproar and taxpayer expense this latest fiasco 

has caused, Rammell should be made to pay those past fines plus all the expenses to remedy 

the current situation. 
  On top of that, I see the Idaho legislature trying to pawn off their measly licensing 

fees on elk ranches now. What good will that do?  The real way to do it would be to have a 

meaningful but reasonable licensing fee, put it in a fund along with the fines assessed 

from violations like Rammells, and use that money to take care of situations like the 

Rammell one and the similar one going on right now with the Rulon Jones thing. That way 

the business of elk farming would fund the expense of policing itself. The taxpayers like 

you &amp; me wouldn&#039;t have to shoulder the burden of paying for these few (15 I think) elk 

farming operations and the hassles they create. 
  That&#039;s just a basic thought. Maybe someone out there could add to it &amp; come up with 

something workable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to side with Joe on this one. Every business owner in the country has to face </p>
<p>responsibility for their businesses, whether it be cleaning up hazardous waste, fixing </p>
<p>OSHA violations, mending fences or what not. If Rex Rammell is in the elk farming </p>
<p>business, then it&#8217;s his responsibility to keep his elk penned in. The fact that a grizzly </p>
<p>opened up his fence (I find that a little hard to believe) doesn&#8217;t matter. It&#8217;s still his </p>
<p>responsibility to keep his animals in. If he runs his operation in grizzly country, then </p>
<p>he should go about making his fences grizzly-proof and face the consequences when his </p>
<p>animals escape, by whatever method.<br />
  I personally think that Gov. Risch&#8217;s move was hasty, maybe uncalled for, and a bit </p>
<p>asenine, but all the same, Rammell should be made to pay for his mistakes.<br />
  So far, no one has mentioned the $750,000 in fines that the Idaho legislature let him </p>
<p>off on in the past. I&#8217;ve never heard what those fines originated from, or why they let him </p>
<p>off. I wonder how many politicians he had in his pocket to get that job done?<br />
 My opinion again: Just because of all the uproar and taxpayer expense this latest fiasco </p>
<p>has caused, Rammell should be made to pay those past fines plus all the expenses to remedy </p>
<p>the current situation.<br />
  On top of that, I see the Idaho legislature trying to pawn off their measly licensing </p>
<p>fees on elk ranches now. What good will that do?  The real way to do it would be to have a </p>
<p>meaningful but reasonable licensing fee, put it in a fund along with the fines assessed </p>
<p>from violations like Rammells, and use that money to take care of situations like the </p>
<p>Rammell one and the similar one going on right now with the Rulon Jones thing. That way </p>
<p>the business of elk farming would fund the expense of policing itself. The taxpayers like </p>
<p>you &amp; me wouldn&#8217;t have to shoulder the burden of paying for these few (15 I think) elk </p>
<p>farming operations and the hassles they create.<br />
  That&#8217;s just a basic thought. Maybe someone out there could add to it &amp; come up with </p>
<p>something workable.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest_1948</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guest_1948</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 17:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, when you say you want to see Rex show responsibility, are you talking about complying with the rules and regs the Dept of Ag instigate each year for elk breeders?

Did the media say anything about the fact that a grizzly bear tore out the fence holding his elk?

And now there is a similar issue with the Cedar Creek Ranch in the Wolverine Canyon near Firth, requiring double fencing for that canned hunting operation, what have you heard about that?

Although I think Rammel is a bit over-the-top, he has some valid points, the governor was out of line ordering the elk shot, and so was the Fish and Game, I don&#039;t think people know that the Dept. of Ag are the govt. entity incharge of elk breeders...not the Fish and Game.
All the testing that came back on Rammel&#039;s elk was negative for disease and the genetics for impure came back negative also, I don&#039;t know if those reports were in the general media either, and none of this information is found on the Fish and Game website.

So I am just curious as to why so many people are angry at Rammel personally, he is standing up for his rights, maybe a bit more extreme than most of us would go, but nontheless, this is America and we have a right to make a living any way we choose as long as it is legal.
And if we believe we are being treated unfairly and unjust then we have another right to pursue justice.

On another note, the legislators/politicians Rammel is attacking are the very ones being verbally attacked in another essay on this site... interesting indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, when you say you want to see Rex show responsibility, are you talking about complying with the rules and regs the Dept of Ag instigate each year for elk breeders?</p>
<p>Did the media say anything about the fact that a grizzly bear tore out the fence holding his elk?</p>
<p>And now there is a similar issue with the Cedar Creek Ranch in the Wolverine Canyon near Firth, requiring double fencing for that canned hunting operation, what have you heard about that?</p>
<p>Although I think Rammel is a bit over-the-top, he has some valid points, the governor was out of line ordering the elk shot, and so was the Fish and Game, I don&#8217;t think people know that the Dept. of Ag are the govt. entity incharge of elk breeders&#8230;not the Fish and Game.<br />
All the testing that came back on Rammel&#8217;s elk was negative for disease and the genetics for impure came back negative also, I don&#8217;t know if those reports were in the general media either, and none of this information is found on the Fish and Game website.</p>
<p>So I am just curious as to why so many people are angry at Rammel personally, he is standing up for his rights, maybe a bit more extreme than most of us would go, but nontheless, this is America and we have a right to make a living any way we choose as long as it is legal.<br />
And if we believe we are being treated unfairly and unjust then we have another right to pursue justice.</p>
<p>On another note, the legislators/politicians Rammel is attacking are the very ones being verbally attacked in another essay on this site&#8230; interesting indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Vandal</title>
		<link>http://www.idahofallstoday.com/2006/09/14/rex-rammell-puts-his-interests-before-idahos/#comment-10361</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Vandal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 16:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points.

About the grizzly that tore his fence, I had not heard that before. However, the fact is he was not taking care of his business. He said he was recovering from back surgery. Did he not have family, friends, employees, or even a neighbor he could call and ask to check his fence once a day? He failed to take proper care of his business and claims it is not his fault, therefore he is failing to take responsibility.

Everything I have heard is that state law already clearly says the Risch&#039;s actions were justified. If the law proves to have been wrong, that is another thing, but as far as I&#039;ve seen Risch was legally sound in the order. Rex does not acknowledge that, he claims the order was illegal, and he muddies the issue.

Rex also fails to mention that many report he and his family chased elk into thicker brush with ATVs, making it harder for everyone to get to the escaped elk. He fails to acknowledge his role in that and therefore fails to accept responsibility. 

I am glad to hear none of the disease tests were positive, however I have heard that Rex has fought all efforts to test his animals. I heard he first fought the Fish and Game&#039;s efforts, then got his legislature buddies to change the authority to the Ag Dept, then got his buddies in the Ag department to look the other way and give him more leniency in testing. Mind you this is what I&#039;ve heard from a few sources, definitely nothing I can say is fact.

So maybe if Rex took responsibility in assisting the government in testing his animals instead of hampering their efforts, we might have known better the state of his herds.

My personal beef with him is that he acts all pious and like he alone knows what is right, and he has consistently failed to ever take responsibility for any mistakes he might have made. 

I could be a lot more sympathetic if he could admit he has not been perfect throughout this ordeal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points.</p>
<p>About the grizzly that tore his fence, I had not heard that before. However, the fact is he was not taking care of his business. He said he was recovering from back surgery. Did he not have family, friends, employees, or even a neighbor he could call and ask to check his fence once a day? He failed to take proper care of his business and claims it is not his fault, therefore he is failing to take responsibility.</p>
<p>Everything I have heard is that state law already clearly says the Risch&#8217;s actions were justified. If the law proves to have been wrong, that is another thing, but as far as I&#8217;ve seen Risch was legally sound in the order. Rex does not acknowledge that, he claims the order was illegal, and he muddies the issue.</p>
<p>Rex also fails to mention that many report he and his family chased elk into thicker brush with ATVs, making it harder for everyone to get to the escaped elk. He fails to acknowledge his role in that and therefore fails to accept responsibility. </p>
<p>I am glad to hear none of the disease tests were positive, however I have heard that Rex has fought all efforts to test his animals. I heard he first fought the Fish and Game&#8217;s efforts, then got his legislature buddies to change the authority to the Ag Dept, then got his buddies in the Ag department to look the other way and give him more leniency in testing. Mind you this is what I&#8217;ve heard from a few sources, definitely nothing I can say is fact.</p>
<p>So maybe if Rex took responsibility in assisting the government in testing his animals instead of hampering their efforts, we might have known better the state of his herds.</p>
<p>My personal beef with him is that he acts all pious and like he alone knows what is right, and he has consistently failed to ever take responsibility for any mistakes he might have made. </p>
<p>I could be a lot more sympathetic if he could admit he has not been perfect throughout this ordeal.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Vandal</title>
		<link>http://www.idahofallstoday.com/2006/09/14/rex-rammell-puts-his-interests-before-idahos/#comment-10356</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Vandal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 13:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Rex Rammell saga drags on, like a long train wreck we are driving by.

Rex is reportedly upset that the judge wouldn&#039;t let Rammel turn his misdemeanor ticket for obstructing justice into a three ring circus with him lecturing the court on his constitutional beliefs.

I still think Rex&#039;s logic is flawed, and could lead him to dangerous thinking and dangerous places. 

He starts with a reasonable belief, that his escaped elk is still his property. He then goes out on the limb and thinks he is justified to do normally unreasonable actions, because it goes back to protecting his constitutional right. 

Following this thinking can lead to dangerous places. We all know a homeowner has a right to use deadly force against burglars, right? Does Rex think he could apply deadly force to people hunting his escaped  elk, because again it is an extension of protecting his property? 

I have heard Rex jumping up and down screaming for months in the media and on the Neal Larson show about his rights, but have never heard him say a single word about his responsibilities that go with those rights. 

Someone please ask the man to consider his responsibilities associated with his rights. Until now we have seen no attempt to take responsibility, and no acknowledgment ever that he could have possibly made the slightest mistake through any of this saga. 

Rex will not get any support while he continues to hoot and holler without being humble enough to admit he ever made a mistake, and while he refuses to take any responsibility for his actions.

Failing to acknowledge his associated responsibilities makes him no different than a welfare recipient suckling on government. 

Who knew Rex Rammell was such a Hilary Clinton fan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Rex Rammell saga drags on, like a long train wreck we are driving by.</p>
<p>Rex is reportedly upset that the judge wouldn&#8217;t let Rammel turn his misdemeanor ticket for obstructing justice into a three ring circus with him lecturing the court on his constitutional beliefs.</p>
<p>I still think Rex&#8217;s logic is flawed, and could lead him to dangerous thinking and dangerous places. </p>
<p>He starts with a reasonable belief, that his escaped elk is still his property. He then goes out on the limb and thinks he is justified to do normally unreasonable actions, because it goes back to protecting his constitutional right. </p>
<p>Following this thinking can lead to dangerous places. We all know a homeowner has a right to use deadly force against burglars, right? Does Rex think he could apply deadly force to people hunting his escaped  elk, because again it is an extension of protecting his property? </p>
<p>I have heard Rex jumping up and down screaming for months in the media and on the Neal Larson show about his rights, but have never heard him say a single word about his responsibilities that go with those rights. </p>
<p>Someone please ask the man to consider his responsibilities associated with his rights. Until now we have seen no attempt to take responsibility, and no acknowledgment ever that he could have possibly made the slightest mistake through any of this saga. </p>
<p>Rex will not get any support while he continues to hoot and holler without being humble enough to admit he ever made a mistake, and while he refuses to take any responsibility for his actions.</p>
<p>Failing to acknowledge his associated responsibilities makes him no different than a welfare recipient suckling on government. </p>
<p>Who knew Rex Rammell was such a Hilary Clinton fan?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Vandal</title>
		<link>http://www.idahofallstoday.com/2006/09/14/rex-rammell-puts-his-interests-before-idahos/#comment-6164</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Vandal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Sep 2006 14:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read in this morning&#039;s PR the sheriff&#039;s office finally did something about Rex and arrested him.  I was starting to wonder how tight buddies the sheriff was with Rex Rammell becuase he should have been arrested sooner in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read in this morning&#8217;s PR the sheriff&#8217;s office finally did something about Rex and arrested him.  I was starting to wonder how tight buddies the sheriff was with Rex Rammell becuase he should have been arrested sooner in my opinion.</p>
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